Drivetrain Installing an OCC
#51
I posted 2 diagrams, which remain visible to me, and others I presume. The photograph (not mine, I only draw 3 year old sketches) with the red and yellow Photoshop lines drawn on it show the M7 routing (red) and my second andpreferred routing (yellow).
This thread seems again to be heading the same way the original one did.
Where's the TSA when we need it...?
cheers,
This thread seems again to be heading the same way the original one did.
Where's the TSA when we need it...?
cheers,
#52
Originally Posted by ScottinBend
Thanks O. The picture posted earlier by the Dr. P was of my install. He did the yellow to show the alternative.
ScottinBend, I was just being the messenger and showing you what gandini had drawn up that you could not see. I used your picture for your comparison.
I am learning about this install also and I am in no way saying this way is correct, rather just passing the info along.
#54
Originally Posted by saifa
I agree...I am quite confused myself.
I have an M7 can but it did not include the instructions people are talking about. I was gonna install it as Johan did https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=63316
but I am not sure where the lower line is going. Is the M7 hose the same collapsible hose as the Alta?
Can someone please "tell me" which way I should go? I believe I have counted 4 or 5 possible routing options. Here is my setup, someone guide me. 1 can only, no VGS (saw routing options with VGS), no turbo and I'm not sure what else may be relevant.
Thanks all
Seann
I have an M7 can but it did not include the instructions people are talking about. I was gonna install it as Johan did https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=63316
but I am not sure where the lower line is going. Is the M7 hose the same collapsible hose as the Alta?
Can someone please "tell me" which way I should go? I believe I have counted 4 or 5 possible routing options. Here is my setup, someone guide me. 1 can only, no VGS (saw routing options with VGS), no turbo and I'm not sure what else may be relevant.
Thanks all
Seann
#55
Ok...
Pre PVC - there was always a breather on the valve cover for OHV, vent tube for flathead, there's a vent tube on your 4 stroke lawnmorer - The crank case needs air. In 1 post, can't remember which, a sealed soultion was sugested NOT using ( Alta ) supplied lines, instead using harder lines to prevent collaps. If this sealed solution is used, the knife edge seals will fail ( think about it - harder lines, same seals ). A piston engine is a pump.... with a pulse
Best way - leave the drivers side vent alone, don't touch it.... Rout 1 line from the PVC to the can, the other to the grey line.. DONE. That's it. Simpler than the Alta setup & IMHO way more better
Pre PVC - there was always a breather on the valve cover for OHV, vent tube for flathead, there's a vent tube on your 4 stroke lawnmorer - The crank case needs air. In 1 post, can't remember which, a sealed soultion was sugested NOT using ( Alta ) supplied lines, instead using harder lines to prevent collaps. If this sealed solution is used, the knife edge seals will fail ( think about it - harder lines, same seals ). A piston engine is a pump.... with a pulse
Best way - leave the drivers side vent alone, don't touch it.... Rout 1 line from the PVC to the can, the other to the grey line.. DONE. That's it. Simpler than the Alta setup & IMHO way more better
#59
#60
Originally Posted by lou
Could you sketch this new improved reroute? I have the Alta can hooked up per their instructions. The only thing I collect is a lot of condensation in the colder months. I have entertained the removal of the OCC or possible reroute? Thanks.
Post 26 and 28 have a diagram of the routing.
#61
OCC on the cheap
After reading all the comments, I looked at OCC thru Google and found this for those wanting to do an OCC for less. http://www.sparerib.net/mini/mods.htm This guy shows how to use a small commercial separator to do the job about half way down his page.
I also agree only the PCV line should be altered to run thru the OCC. The PVC never clses, only varies it's opening size as needed based on engine needs for blowby.
moremini
I also agree only the PCV line should be altered to run thru the OCC. The PVC never clses, only varies it's opening size as needed based on engine needs for blowby.
moremini
#63
Related questions:
I have the OCC hooked up per Alta directions and note two things:
1) Cold weather all I collect is water vapor. Most drives are short distances and car never gets warm. Now that summer weather is here, no more water...minimum oil coating. I believe this to be normal.
2) Fumes...Have a lawn mower type smell in the garage after parking the MINI while cooling. ( No lawn mower is in the garage ) Also, in the car when first starting out..same smell. The Alta CAI is also installed.
Questions: Does anyone else have similar odors?
Will installation per post #28 eliminate this odor?
Thanks for any comments.
I have the OCC hooked up per Alta directions and note two things:
1) Cold weather all I collect is water vapor. Most drives are short distances and car never gets warm. Now that summer weather is here, no more water...minimum oil coating. I believe this to be normal.
2) Fumes...Have a lawn mower type smell in the garage after parking the MINI while cooling. ( No lawn mower is in the garage ) Also, in the car when first starting out..same smell. The Alta CAI is also installed.
Questions: Does anyone else have similar odors?
Will installation per post #28 eliminate this odor?
Thanks for any comments.
#64
Originally Posted by lou
Related questions:
I have the OCC hooked up per Alta directions and note two things:
1) Cold weather all I collect is water vapor. Most drives are short distances and car never gets warm. Now that summer weather is here, no more water...minimum oil coating. I believe this to be normal.
2) Fumes...Have a lawn mower type smell in the garage after parking the MINI while cooling. ( No lawn mower is in the garage ) Also, in the car when first starting out..same smell. The Alta CAI is also installed.
Questions: Does anyone else have similar odors?
Will installation per post #28 eliminate this odor?
Thanks for any comments.
I have the OCC hooked up per Alta directions and note two things:
1) Cold weather all I collect is water vapor. Most drives are short distances and car never gets warm. Now that summer weather is here, no more water...minimum oil coating. I believe this to be normal.
2) Fumes...Have a lawn mower type smell in the garage after parking the MINI while cooling. ( No lawn mower is in the garage ) Also, in the car when first starting out..same smell. The Alta CAI is also installed.
Questions: Does anyone else have similar odors?
Will installation per post #28 eliminate this odor?
Thanks for any comments.
IMO, it is the smell of oil leeching from the silicon Alta can and the silicone hoses. I am in the process of switching to the M7 for that reason. I've already changed out the hose.
#66
I had this same smell without any OCC - my personal belief is that it comes from the Alta Intake - which when installed per the directions provides a very uninhibited path to the outside (via the cowl) from both the throttle body and the vent hose.
I could sometimes smell it inside the car when I would first start the car as well.
I could sometimes smell it inside the car when I would first start the car as well.
#67
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#69
Originally Posted by lou
Related questions:
I have the OCC hooked up per Alta directions and note two things:
1) Cold weather all I collect is water vapor. Most drives are short distances and car never gets warm. Now that summer weather is here, no more water...minimum oil coating. I believe this to be normal.
2) Fumes...Have a lawn mower type smell in the garage after parking the MINI while cooling. ( No lawn mower is in the garage ) Also, in the car when first starting out..same smell. The Alta CAI is also installed.
Questions: Does anyone else have similar odors?
Will installation per post #28 eliminate this odor?
Thanks for any comments.
I have the OCC hooked up per Alta directions and note two things:
1) Cold weather all I collect is water vapor. Most drives are short distances and car never gets warm. Now that summer weather is here, no more water...minimum oil coating. I believe this to be normal.
2) Fumes...Have a lawn mower type smell in the garage after parking the MINI while cooling. ( No lawn mower is in the garage ) Also, in the car when first starting out..same smell. The Alta CAI is also installed.
Questions: Does anyone else have similar odors?
Will installation per post #28 eliminate this odor?
Thanks for any comments.
Q 2: Yes
In responce to Irishcooper, Reroute as to post #28
#70
I'd like to report that my reroute of the OCC from the M7 routing (which I think is similar to the Alta instructions) to that shown in post #28 is working *very* well. No problems, oil getting caught and no water. Nice and neat layout of the lines, also.
Here's a photo of the layout:
cheers,
Here's a photo of the layout:
cheers,
#71
#72
Originally Posted by JoeCool
Does anyone know what the Mini Madness OCC breather filter does? None of the other OCC's seem to have one. Is it necessary or even an improvement over other designs?
#73
I need help, fast!
I'm trying to hook up my OCC right now. This is what I have so far.
Do I run the other tube to the other side of the valve cover and just clamp it down? Taking off my breather filter and the tubing that is already there?
So I have the T connected here. The valve to the tubing going to the OCC, then onto the grey line:
Then do I put the other tubing from the OCC all the way to this valve and clamp it down?
Thanks!
-Cody
Edit* Pics with arrows and text.
I'm trying to hook up my OCC right now. This is what I have so far.
Do I run the other tube to the other side of the valve cover and just clamp it down? Taking off my breather filter and the tubing that is already there?
So I have the T connected here. The valve to the tubing going to the OCC, then onto the grey line:
Then do I put the other tubing from the OCC all the way to this valve and clamp it down?
Thanks!
-Cody
Edit* Pics with arrows and text.
#75