I found this while fishing. Any one have one? Looks like the M7?

LongBoard

http://www.powertone.com/exhaustsystems/index.html

 

Yes it is, as we have an exclusive agreement with powertone. The black tips are also an additional exclusive.
Why did we use a company as powertone to make our exhaust.....simple they
have a fantastic exhaust (for many different cars) and we have distribution worlwide for MINI Cooper parts. The other positive is that we can sell the system at a lower price as we make a fair amount of systems every week.

peter
Team M7
562-608-8123

 

Pretty substantial performance claims. Can anyone substantiate these? How much is this puppy?

BD

 

does powertone actually sell the exhaust, or just other companies? what are the real dyno numbers

 

Hey all,
I would take a good look at the welds on this system. They don't look all that hot to me. And the center pipe is only 2.25" that's the same as the stock system! I,m sure ( maybe not? ) the mufflers may flow a little better then stock, but I would think this system would be on the loud side. And why did they cut the heat shield? Also for the price, ( less $ ) I think the Milltek is the way to go. Ours fit as good if not better than the stock system. If the Milltek is not loud enough for you, you can order it less the Res.

Just my .02 cents!

Sorry M-7
I know some people like Black Mini,s and some people like Pepper White Mini's It's you money spend it the way you want. I say, Go for the Milltek!

 

Thank you for your insightfull response....let me guess you have a Miltek on your car.

There's a reson for the tube size, bigger is not better, as the flow characteristics of the unique muffler not only speed the gases up but prevents gas reversion. And the Freeflow sounds better to.

As for black tips.....

PS. no cutting of the heat shield is necessary

peter
Team M7
562-608-8123

 

But what about the welds? That would be a major concern of mine. If you are selling the same system...people might start second guessing themselves. I personally would want the welds on my exhaust to be good, but to be honest....I really can't tell. I know the welds are supposed to be like a layer of quater's correct? One after another?

And I'm not in ANY way trying to bash your system M7. I think the little soundclip was great, and is the exhaust I want at the moment...BUT I do know some people would probably like to know a little bit more about the engineering of the system.
But I don't know anything, so don't listen to me.
-Cody

 

Dude.....

Seriously, there's nothing wrong with the welds....period
We would never let any of our systems go out of here if it was sub-standard
in any way. Just ask the people who allready got em.

peter
Team M7
562-608-8123

 

Hi Peter,

I'm writing at PM from my hotel room in China. I just arrive after hrs of travel.

Please believe me when I say I was not trying to start something by starting this tread.

I am actually here seeing a vendor who the company I work for has the world wide exclusive on one of their parts. I personally spent a year working with R&D to bring it up to the quality standards our company is known for. Believe it or not people, some times some one else comes up with a great idea but needs help taking it to the next level.

I truly believe in the quality of M7 parts and feel you are the premiere high end supplier to our community. I'm sure that the exhausts you are distributing are up to the quality level we expect from M7. By the way? Is my DFIC in?? I sure hope it's at the house when I get back from hell

One more thing. I have a Milltek and like it. That said the welds suck and my resonator now has a rattle.

Well I have to get some sleep.

LongBoard




Seriously, there's nothing wrong with the welds....period
We would never let any of our systems go out of here if it was sub-standard
in any way. Just ask the people who already got em.

peter
Team M7
562-608-8123[/quote]

 

Weld appearance is over-rated. I was under my car today at a muffler shop and the welds on the Milltek cat-back (UK origin) look like crap compared to the absolutely perfect welds on my Megan header (Chinese origin). They both seem to do their job: join tubes and flanges together without leaking or breaking.
This reminds me of the (many years old) fight between Merlin and Litespeed, at the time the two largest US manufacturers of titanium bicycle frames. In the end there was no difference, and now Merlin is owned by Litespeed, and the welds look the same.

cheers,

 

Anyway, I still want it...but it'll be a ways off before I actually can get it. I hope to hear some more sound clips and video's soon though.

-Cody

 

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Our state of the art Mini S system is currently available at $?00 for the coupe, $??0 for the convertable version (a little quieter )
Our new retail/installation facility is at
Luguna Beach Service/PowerTone Performance
1009 South Coast Highway
Laguna Beach, CA 92651
949-497-1116
949-280-1052 (Alan's cell)
We can install it for $?00, while you enjoy the beach or a walk downtown if you are in Southern California.
Thank you for your inquiry.

 

MiniMeg thank you for digging up the name and phone number of Powertone.
The owner of Powertone finds it kind of amusing that many of you called and tried to get a system cheaper thru him Sorry dudes but as I said, we are exclusive with them.....unless you wan't to drive over to their facillity
and pay $999 yes $200 more then we charge for a system with polished tips.

peter
Team M7
562-608-8123 "Black tips rule"

 

The welds are just the way the system is made. They look fine in person. No slop or anything. I was actually impressed with the build quality on mine. They sound great too.. Although the wife has not gone for a long ride in it yet.... Don't know what will be louder.. Her complaining or the new exhaust and header

 

Peter,
$999.00 is not the price he gave me!!! It was less. You may have noticed, out of respect for you I did not give the price he gave me.
Just an FYI.

 

I know excactly what he told you $899.00 but it's a system most MINI owners would not want on their car as it is way to noisy....
And we are only offering that as an option (noisy option) for the hard core
MINI owner at $729.00.

Peter
Team M7
562-608-8123 "Black tips rule"

 

FYI,
$899.00 I don't think so! And why are you getting so ? Milltek sells aprox. 70 units per mo. Hmmm. ( This is my last commit on this matter! )

 

Gee and according to Randy Webb bigger is better. And he did a heck of a lot more testing than you did.

 

"There's a reson for the tube size, bigger is not better, as the flow characteristics of the unique muffler not only speed the gases up but prevents gas reversion. And the Freeflow sounds better to."
Sorry, I'm not buying that.
I saw Randy today in the mule, his pipe sure wasn't smaller.

 

That's correct, but I'm selling systems, and my customers can drive without
ear protection.....

peter
Team M7
562-608-8123 "Black tips rule"

 

Bigger is definitely not always better, especially on a 4 cyl engine. I thought we all learned that when we first started tinkerin' with cars. Maybe if you're pushing 4, 5, or 600hp then bigger might be better. I don't put a whole lot in Randy, he's not doing to well.

 

Sales, yeah I know... that’s what you do.
The business ends of my tips are black too, do they rule?
I can hear just fine, so what are you implying?
Remember 2.5" all the way back, that rules!

 

Have a beta version of Randy's exhaust (3 inch). Dyno'd the car with and without the bypass valve open. Can make the change in 5 minutes. Got 7 more HP with it in the open position. That contradicts your statement. Doesn't the fact that our cars are forced induction make the rules differ on scavenging and "bigger is better"?

Your last sentence is irresponsible and is an ad hominem attack.

 

The fact is " our cars are forced induction” and that makes the rules different on scavenging. "Bigger is better"!
I saw Randy race yesterday at Summit Point, he Won the first race and had some kind of a problem?, the second race. He is doing great, his car sounded good, not as loud as some of the others out there. The M7 equipped cars were at the back of the pack, maybe the exhaust was too restrictive. Who knows, but I'm sure some sales guy will be on here shortly to tell us
.