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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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20hp?

i am trying to get the most hp for the buck.....
without risking reliability.
mini mania advertises 20hp from their 15%
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 06:46 PM
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A 15% pulley is a 15% pulley as far as power to be gained. In other words all pulleys that are the same size give you the same power gain.Ron
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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but it does give you 20hp gain?
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 06:56 PM
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I'd say that a 15% would give you +/- 20 HP. Probably closer to 18. But, yes. This is the best bang for your buck.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 06:57 PM
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Depends on the dyno you use I suppose. In Europe, you might be getting 30hp+. Don't worry about numbers, it's the best thing you can do for your MINI.

[edit] Are 15% pullies really created equally, WMS says theirs is the best. I don't really understand their explanation so...
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 07:06 PM
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15% pulley, alta intake, and borla sport, I got a gain of 22hp.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 07:11 PM
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so its about 18. 2 more for alta. 2 for borla..... more or less?
at least in that combo.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 07:12 PM
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19% will give you a lot more than 20hp.. :P
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 07:18 PM
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but i heard so much about over-reving and need for injectors.....and so on and so on
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 07:23 PM
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but i heard so much about over-reving and need for injectors.....and so on and so on

psh...i dont see anyone with 19% pulleys complaining about any problems whatsoever... at that your s/c is only rated for what...100k miles...with a 15% 85k miles...19% ~80K miles...

And you can get the jcw intake and injectors for like $450?? that with a 19%...you should be golden..
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mcsdmn
i am trying to get the most hp for the buck.....
without risking reliability.
mini mania advertises 20hp from their 15%
Randy Webb is having a pulley party in L.A. next weekend in Long Beach. Sign up for it here if you like.

400 bucks installed. (includes parts and labour, and a job that won't be a eff up.)

And yeah, you get about 20 horsepower from it.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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may 5th weekend?
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mcsdmn
may 5th weekend?
Yeah.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 07:47 PM
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Do the 19%. Look at my sig and save your money.

That aside, I dynoed mine and I didn't even hit 10hp with the 15% pulley so I must've dynoed it on a conservative dynojet... However, I did gain 20 hp or so at some points in the rev range, just not at the peak. The magic number is my torque though, I gained 18lb-ft at the peak.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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man i cant make that weekend....

MINIotaple, i would just go all out but i am 17 and limited founds...... besides the way i drive i shouldn't have sooo much power on tap.......
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 08:19 PM
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do 17%... keep it in between. See what its like...

and btw, 20hp at the wheel?
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 08:22 PM
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man i cant make that weekend....

MINIotaple, i would just go all out but i am 17 and limited founds...... besides the way i drive i shouldn't have sooo much power on tap.......
Im 20...and spillman is 19...he has twincharge...
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MSFIT
Im 20...and spillman is 19...he has twincharge...


See, I'm the rational one of the group. I'm 21 and I'm nowhere near MSFIT or Spillman.

Do the 19% and then get the JCW injectors for $250, then save up for some software, GIAC, MTH, whatever. It's not that bad. You did get the MCS. Stop seeing your girlfriend or postpone getting a girlfriend and you'll find some newfound wealth.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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hahaha i actually HAVE thought of that (the girlfriend thing) like i always say my MINI is more dependable anyway!

what about 17%, JCW injectors, and the MTH tuner file...... how much HP do you think that could get......might as well your only young once right?
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mcsdmn
hahaha i actually HAVE thought of that (the girlfriend thing) like i always say my MINI is more dependable anyway!

what about 17%, JCW injectors, and the MTH tuner file...... how much HP do you think that could get......might as well your only young once right?
No waffling. This country hates wafflers. "Better ten years as an eagle than a hundred years as a pigeon." (This is the way my 50-yr old co-worker rationalized buying a motorcycle without telling his wife) 19%, you might as well, you've already put in the extra money with the injectors. I would personally recommend GIAC if you have a dealer close, but MTH tuner is good too I suppose.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 08:45 PM
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sprp85, thats what mini mania advertises granted it would be a little modest seeing as they sell it.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 08:50 PM
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i guess wouldn't want to be a waffler.......god i knew this was going to be a money pit but i can't say its not worth it
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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but it does give you 20hp gain?
I would say yes...but I never checked it with out the intake and exhaust

I gained a total of 26 WHP

I had BenFer Performance stage III intake, UUC Exhaust, 15% pully By Global Motor Werks
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mcsdmn
i guess wouldn't want to be a waffler.......god i knew this was going to be a money pit but i can't say its not worth it
It has to be okay when it feels so good. That said, I'm done after these next few mods. I need to start being rational.

You're young. I remember when I was in high school. I wouldn't eat lunch to save my lunch money so I could use it for spending money, but I also had girlfriends for all four years of high school. It's okay, I dated my fiance for two of those four years.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 08:53 PM
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i see...

Well when you go 17%, u do not need the injectors.


Go 17%, HAI or CAI, and ECU.. like MTH, GIAC...

Turning 21 this November..
 
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