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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 08:57 PM
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yeah and with gas prices going up it seems like i need all the money i can get........its funny all my g/f always complianed i paid too much attention to my cars..... even girls that i'm not going out with say that!

so yeah about how much HP you running know? hope to gain?
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mcsdmn
yeah and with gas prices going up it seems like i need all the money i can get........its funny all my g/f always complianed i paid too much attention to my cars..... even girls that i'm not going out with say that!

so yeah about how much HP you running know? hope to gain?
If you choose the right one, they don't do that...

With my 15% pulley I did ~170whp, pre-pulley I did ~160whp. Helix has posted that their 19%/Injectors/GIAC makes ~30whp so I'm hoping to break 200whp with my intake and exhaust.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 09:06 PM
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don't you think you might need upgraded brakes?
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 09:06 PM
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From my understand the WMS pulley is "best" because the design makes for easy flawless installations, it has built in cooling and the groove pattern provides for better belt grip to prevent slipage and better belt longevity. Thats what Randy's claims were anyways.

The smaller size of the 19% pulley suposidly puts a little bit too much bend on the belt, thus reducing belt longevity.

Suposidly any pulley over 16% exceeds peak efficiency at high rpms, and you end up making more heat than power (at high rpms), the smaller pulleys will still create more boost earlier.

I haven't heard any people complain about 19% pulleys, although you should be aware of the potential downsides.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 09:06 PM
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buy my brakes!!!! check my sig the parting out thread!!! just dropped the price!!!
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 09:08 PM
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buy my brakes!!!! check my sig the parting out thread!!! just dropped the price!!!
Dude, I so would, but I'm about to drop money on an exhaust and I still need to get the GIAC and I still have my wedding to pay for...

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don't you think you might need upgraded brakes?
Umm, that's part of the plan, but it's down the line. Do you plan to do a lot of autox or racing? If you do, I would turn my attention to a rear sway bar... Otherwise, I think it's something you can put off and wait until the stock parts need replacing which apparently I learned that the stock disks have to be replaced with the pads... so I figure I'll get some powerslots and some less dusty pads so I won't have to break my back cleaning my white rims when I get them that is...
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by xianqi

The smaller size of the 19% pulley suposidly puts a little bit too much bend on the belt, thus reducing belt longevity.

Suposidly any pulley over 16% exceeds peak efficiency at high rpms, and you end up making more heat than power (at high rpms), the smaller pulleys will still create more boost earlier.
bah SUPPOSEDLY...i would rather be able to blow your doors off and change out my belt every 30-50k prolly last longer than that...just keep an eye on it...

and supposedly the smaller pulleys put out more boost..end of story..the cars pull hard...lot harder than 15...

REAL WORLD > PAPER
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MINIotaple
Dude, I so would, but I'm about to drop money on an exhaust and I still need to get the GIAC and I still have my wedding to pay for...
wedding?!?!?!

i didnt get my invatation

lol jk...man...your 21?? thats nuts..
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 09:12 PM
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haha i see YOU found the right one
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuls
I would say yes...but I never checked it with out the intake and exhaust

I gained a total of 26 WHP

I had BenFer Performance stage III intake, UUC Exhaust, 15% pully By Global Motor Werks
Is that the awesome carbon fiber enclosed intake system?

If so, how do you like it?
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MSFIT
bah SUPPOSEDLY...i would rather be able to blow your doors off and change out my belt every 30-50k prolly last longer than that...just keep an eye on it...

and supposedly the smaller pulleys put out more boost..end of story..the cars pull hard...lot harder than 15...

REAL WORLD > PAPER
There are a couple of tuners that say that the 19% puts too much strain on the supercharger and the belt, but:

1) Eric from Helix says that the 19%/injectors/GIAC cool the engine greatly or something... Maybe I misread this from before, but it was something to that extent.
2) Eric also says that he's seen the same number of snapped belts from 15% as he has from 19%.

That said, there are two side. You really have to choose which tuner you want to listen to.

That said. I've never heard a complaint about a 19% pulley owner and everybody says they pull much harder.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 09:16 PM
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haha i see YOU found the right one
hahah dude, she's the perfect one, loves when I go fast, loves fast cars and loves going for drives. Thus I can spend time and money on the car and she's A-OK. And she's ALL mine so no you can't have her!!

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wedding?!?!?!

i didnt get my invatation

lol jk...man...your 21?? thats nuts..
Wait by your mailbox, it's coming...
How about an early wedding gift like the Advans or the Brembos?
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 09:21 PM
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jcw injectors.....$110 ea
mth tuner file......$360
LSD........1,195
wife that wants you to buy them..........priceless!
(hold on to that one)
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mcsdmn
jcw injectors.....$110 ea
mth tuner file......$360
LSD........1,195
wife that wants you to buy them..........priceless!
(hold on to that one)
No, JCW injectors aren't $110 each...
http://www.myminiparts.com/proddetai...rod=JCWI&cat=7
~$63 or so each

But, yes, it is pretty priceless, but I also have to have self-control. She's basically leaving the cookie jar open. It's my job to not endanger our livelihoods.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 09:25 PM
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thats what i found them as......
how much is the package you are getting?
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mcsdmn
thats what i found them as......
how much is the package you are getting?
I got the 19% hub used for $50. Injectors for $300 (I didn't have anybody tell me about mymini... ) GIAC for $325. Hopefully, the 19% hub will come in tomorrow and I'll be able to get the GIAC this friday when I go back to Houston.

If I was doing it from a fresh start:
Pulley + Install $350
Injectors $250
GIAC $325
Total $925
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 09:40 PM
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The general rule of thumb around here is a 15% pulley will give you ABOUT 15 ft lbs. torque and 15 whp.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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hum 925.....sounds resonable where would i get the parts?
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 09:46 PM
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now for an CAI, exhaust, LSD........see what i tell you moneypit.........
but well worth it right?
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 09:55 PM
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Pulley + Install $350

Pulley is your choice. I went with helix because I like the look (this really doesn't matter, but I had no other way to decide since everybody said they were all the same) and I was afraid I might want to go 19%... Self-fulfilling prophecy I guess... You could wait for Randy's pulley party or you can find a shop that will do the pulley install and use their pulley.

JCW Injectors $250
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GIAC $325

I have a GIAC tuner by me. I'm sure you'll have one in Southern California also.
You can do MTH, but you'll need the MTH program and then the cable... which will run $400+ total, but they do have some other interesting features like letting the revs drop quickly, reducing the intrusiveness of DSC, etc. The only thing I don't like about MTH is it seems like they're just stabbing in the dark. Sometimes they get it right, sometimes they don't.

Total $925

I also assume that you're doing the injector installation yourself.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 10:03 PM
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well how hard is it? isn't it just swapping them out?
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 10:03 PM
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Not to jack the thread but what parts would guys recomend for a JCW to make more power, I've considered a new IC, a 2% crank pully, a headder, and MTH ecu upgrade. What do you guys think. I wanted it to stay very realiable, so I want to be in the safe zone, Maybe one day I'll change the pistons and go big just not now. Maybe 230 WHP is this realialbe.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Urban_Assault_JCW
Not to jack the thread but what parts would guys recomend for a JCW to make more power, I've considered a new IC, a 2% crank pully, a headder, and MTH ecu upgrade. What do you guys think. I wanted it to stay very realiable, so I want to be in the safe zone, Maybe one day I'll change the pistons and go big just not now. Maybe 230 WHP is this realialbe.
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Sell your JCW and buy MSFIT's car. I'd say skip the MTH if you really want 230whp since you'll probably want a Unichip or an apexi. I'd go straight for a head just because it seems like it's where you're going to get most of your power to get to 230whp.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mcsdmn
well how hard is it? isn't it just swapping them out?
Yeah, the injectors are easy, but some people don't like doing their own work?
 
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 10:10 PM
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oh i'm not one of those people......... just as i like manual to DRIVE the car, i like to know my car....and be the one who works on it.
 
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