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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by camelpilot
All bets off if ANY MINI that is currently in 1st, 2nd or 3rd place breaks and fails to finish.
Why? There's no "do-overs" or "that race doesn't count" in any mainstream racing sport I know of such as WRC, F1, NASCAR, IRL, NHRA... Oh, let's stop the SuperBowl since the quarterback just hurt his throwing arm.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by camelpilot
Hey I didnt say anything about money.



But now that you mention it:

$100 bucks on Webb to win versus ANY MINI. (Triple charge it if you like - hell put a jet engine it it, it's still going to lose. Put Schumacher in the drivers seat too for all I care - just make sure it's a MINI)

All bets off if ANY MINI that is currently in 1st, 2nd or 3rd place breaks and fails to finish.

This is for the "MINI Unlimited race" of course.

Personally I would like to see any twin charge race put their money where their mouth is and race RW. Another good nominee for the battle I would love to see is Bob S. aka Canyon MINI. This guy is fast. And if anyone can beat RW in a MINI, it will be him.

I cannot believe the absolute arrogance on this board...

I can not and will probably never beable to comprehend how your mind works... How could you possibly say that he is the best and virtually no body could beat him...

YOU DON"T HAVE A CLUE AS TO WHO IS OUT THEIR AND WHAT THEY ARE CAPABLE OF!

Posts like these are what drives me CRAZY about this community! YOu do NOT have an open mind... YOU TAKE WHATEVER IS SAID BY Peter or Randy as GOSPEL! AND anything else other people say is garbage...

Peter... and Randy... while very very good at what they do ARE NOT ALL KNOWING... THEY DO NOT KNOW EVERYTHING... and you know what else THEY MAY NOT BE THE BEST DRIVERS OUT THEIR!

IF Randy Webb is soooooooooo good at driving... why doesn't he campaign and get a sponsered ride? If he is keeping up with these 500hp vettes in a sub300hp mini... im sure it would be absolutely no problem for him to get a sponser... MINIUSA sponsored a drag car... maybe they would be interested in sponsering him...

Hell... if randy competed then he might just give tony nuzzo a run for his money...

Also another thing that many of you guys don't realize is that we have a MINI owner out here in AZ who OWNS his OWN PERSONAL RACE TRACK! He built it just for himself... and then he started to rent it to the public... it has been shut down due to noise regulations but he can still personally drive on it...

IMAGINE if you owned your own race track... do you think you might beable to muster up a better lap time than randy or peter... hmm... i would sure hope so...

by the way when he isn't laping the track in his race preped mini... he is lapping it in his Diablo... when that runs out of gas... he takes his enzo... when that runs out of gas the cheap cars come out... his carrera GT... The ford GT... and then his fully prepped S4 race car... and for some slidewayz fun... the viper comes out and lays down some black streaks...

lifes rough...
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 11:19 AM
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hehehe, i love it when people like you get angry when someone says the RW word. It's great. Like I said before man. Accept it. Hatred for the best won't get you very far. Respect, maybe. But hatred? Nope.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by dominicminicoopers
Why? There's no "do-overs" or "that race doesn't count" in any mainstream racing sport I know of such as WRC, F1, NASCAR, IRL, NHRA... Oh, let's stop the SuperBowl since the quarterback just hurt his throwing arm.
Because I dont want to waste time with "but he was leading up until...." bs. I just wanna take my money and come back another day if that happens.

Personally, I believe that finishing the race is part of the race. But knowing this community, there will be lots of if's but's and should haves. By making the "all bets off" criteria, that frees me from having to partake, hehe.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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any takers for hosting Randy's video? I would love to see it after seeing the Newfoundland Targa race video!

an Laguna is cool
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by camelpilot
Because I dont want to waste time with "but he was leading up until...." bs. I just wanna take my money and come back another day if that happens.

Personally, I believe that finishing the race is part of the race. But knowing this community, there will be lots of if's but's and should haves. By making the "all bets off" criteria, that frees me from having to partake, hehe.
So he is the best and unstopable but you won't take your chances of the reliablity of the car he built... Sounds reasonable seeing as he is on this board for the incredible cars he ha sbuilt... After all he might be racing Schumacher and we have seen how reliable his engine builders are... Seriously get over the fact that you think he is unstoppable. I am sure if Randy wouldhave a different attitude. He can't honestly think he is the best MINI racer in the world... Wouldn't he have some sort of sponsored ride by now? By the way, the guy who bought my MINI has raced and one at Lemans, 24hrs of Daytona, and many other racing events. Think he might know a thing or two about driving, car set up, and reliabilty. Probably not... Its easy to build a car to race for 24hrs.

Sorry to go off topic but I have to know this:

Who wins - Randy Webb vs. Ditka....
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by camelpilot
hehehe, i love it when people like you get angry when someone says the RW word. It's great. Like I said before man. Accept it. Hatred for the best won't get you very far. Respect, maybe. But hatred? Nope.
i hope thats not directed towards me...

Im sure they are BOTH great drivers... ive said it before... IM sure they are very knowledable... but to assume that no one else could ever beat them in a MINI is just absurd...
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 11:40 AM
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this has been reduced to a "I bet Muhammad Ali could beat Bruce Lee" debate
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ZAKdog
this has been reduced to a "I bet Muhammad Ali could beat Bruce Lee" debate

ya kinda....

although i think motorsports3 had it right when he said

Ditka vs. __________


DITKA...
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by isellem
I cannot believe the absolute arrogance on this board...

I can not and will probably never beable to comprehend how your mind works... How could you possibly say that he is the best and virtually no body could beat him...

YOU DON"T HAVE A CLUE AS TO WHO IS OUT THEIR AND WHAT THEY ARE CAPABLE OF!

Posts like these are what drives me CRAZY about this community! YOu do NOT have an open mind... YOU TAKE WHATEVER IS SAID BY Peter or Randy as GOSPEL! AND anything else other people say is garbage...

Peter... and Randy... while very very good at what they do ARE NOT ALL KNOWING... THEY DO NOT KNOW EVERYTHING... and you know what else THEY MAY NOT BE THE BEST DRIVERS OUT THEIR!

IF Randy Webb is soooooooooo good at driving... why doesn't he campaign and get a sponsered ride? If he is keeping up with these 500hp vettes in a sub300hp mini... im sure it would be absolutely no problem for him to get a sponser... MINIUSA sponsored a drag car... maybe they would be interested in sponsering him...

Hell... if randy competed then he might just give tony nuzzo a run for his money...

Also another thing that many of you guys don't realize is that we have a MINI owner out here in AZ who OWNS his OWN PERSONAL RACE TRACK! He built it just for himself... and then he started to rent it to the public... it has been shut down due to noise regulations but he can still personally drive on it...

IMAGINE if you owned your own race track... do you think you might beable to muster up a better lap time than randy or peter... hmm... i would sure hope so...

by the way when he isn't laping the track in his race preped mini... he is lapping it in his Diablo... when that runs out of gas... he takes his enzo... when that runs out of gas the cheap cars come out... his carrera GT... The ford GT... and then his fully prepped S4 race car... and for some slidewayz fun... the viper comes out and lays down some black streaks...

lifes rough...
Easy tiger ! How the hell did we ( peter ) get brought into this ?

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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by maxmini
Easy tiger ! How the hell did we ( peter ) get brought into this ?

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ohh... i just want people to know that I don't have anything personal towards you... i don't have anything towards Peter...

On this board their seems to be the Peter/M7 groupies and the Webb groupies...

I just don't want either party to think that i have something against one or the other... its just a comment in general... thats all...

That and i thought i read someone saying something about a shootout between you and peter earlier in this thread... but i haven't reread this entire thread in a while... so i could be thinking of a differnet thread...
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by camelpilot
Personally, I believe that finishing the race is part of the race. But knowing this community, there will be lots of if's but's and should haves. By making the "all bets off" criteria, that frees me from having to partake, hehe.
Dale Earnhardt was doing pretty good in a recent Daytona 500 until the last lap when he died. Do you think Vegas gave every gambler their money back on their bets for that infamous race? I don't think so...
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by maxmini
Easy tiger ! How the hell did we ( peter ) get brought into this ?
FWIW jlm mentions peter/m7 in post #22 of this thread.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dominicminicoopers
Dale Earnhardt was doing pretty good in a recent Daytona 500 until the last lap when he died. Do you think Vegas gave every gambler their money back on their bets for that infamous race? I don't think so...
Domminic this is by far the funniest thing that you have ever said! i can't stop laughing! its even funnier because you are such a NASCAR fan!
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by isellem
I cannot believe the absolute arrogance on this board...
Careful!

Originally Posted by isellem
Peter... and Randy... while very very good at what they do ARE NOT ALL KNOWING... THEY DO NOT KNOW EVERYTHING...
In order to prove this statement you'd have to be omnipotent

You're taking this way too literally & seriously. Camelpilot is just having fun. Maybe more now that you're goin' off.

Anyone remeber Bambi meets Godzilla?

EDIT: Dominic's ironic sarcasm duly noted, you've got a strange sence of humor Isellem
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by maxmini
Easy tiger ! How the hell did we ( peter ) get brought into this ?

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Somebody suggested a M7 vs. Webb Race. Thats how you got brought into this. Don't worry though, according to the expert "pilot of camels" it doesn't matter if you have Michael Schumacher, Hurley Haywood, David Donahue, Boris Said, Hans Stuch, Ayrton Senna, Fangio, Colin Mcrae, Valentino Rossi, Ditka, Alan McNish, A Penske fielded car, or anyone else I may have missed there is nothing that will ever be faster than Webb.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by dominicminicoopers
Dale Earnhardt was doing pretty good in a recent Daytona 500 until the last lap when he died. Do you think Vegas gave every gambler their money back on their bets for that infamous race? I don't think so...
That is great!!! Good analogy.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by minimc
Careful!



In order to prove this statement you'd have to be omnipotent

You're taking this way too literally & seriously. Camelpilot is just having fun. Maybe more now that you're goin' off.

Anyone remeber Bambi meets Godzilla?
careful what?

I hope i haven't come across as arogant... i didn't say that i... or that anyone that i knew could definetly MOP the floor with webb. All i have done is said that people should keep an open mind... their are alot of mini owners out their... their are alot of real professional drivers out their...
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by minimc

In order to prove this statement you'd have to be omnipotent
Look at the big brain on Brad.... Or in this case minimc
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:07 PM
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Fight

My bet will go to Bruce Lee anyday in less than 60 seconds. I have witnessed a real fight in a old gym with BL and four others. BL won in less than 60 sec. Those four .
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:12 PM
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I agree.

Point aside...I had people start putting conditions on the match up:
in a ring....with gloves on...no kicking... it just gets ridiculous:impatient
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RED FURY
Most of these "T2" cars are for the drag strip and street racing

I hope someone can give Randy Webb a race in unlimited
Which got this response:

motorsports3
Is that supposed to be a joke

RED FURY certainly didn't start this little spat by making his above comment... simply stating that he hopes someone can be highly competitive with Randy. motorsports3's response however is provoking, and disrespectful if done intentionally.

Red said what he said based upon Randy's past performances and what he has seen with his own eyes. Quite a few others have similar experiences, based upon reality. On a track, Randy, and his MINI, has been very formidable, and has proven to be very fast, if not the fastest in all MINI/Mini events. So, to ask if someone will be able to outdo him is certainly a reasonable comment/question.

A reply inquiring if this is a joke is condescending, and ignores and discredits what he has accomplished, and many have seen.

I'm sure there are plenty of damn good drivers out there, and probably a good number of those better than Randy Webb; maybe even some running-on private tracks that we are not privy to...

For the vast majority of us, we are just aware of what our senses have told us over the past few years... that Randy is the one to beat on a track.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:35 PM
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Back to our regularly scheduled program....

Is Randy's Mini a Turbokompressor? He sells them. I also heard an unsubstantiated rumor he was planning an install for himself.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:36 PM
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This is soooo silly
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:37 PM
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When I spoke with him, he shared a fair amount that he was doing, and that didn't come-up...
 
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