Coming soon to Coast to Coast USA. 100% titanium lightweight performance exhaust system. Complete system with middle resonator weighs a mere 13lbs. Will also be available without center resonator weighing in at just 11lbs. Performance data as well as sound clips and video will be available in the coming weeks.


I welcome any questions or comments about this new exhaust.

Thanks,
Cliff

 

Sure is pretty. Why the sectioned pipe at all the bends?
And of course, how much???

 

Is this system based on the one that you just sold on eBay - made by the same company? If so, was the change from four mufflers to two the reason for the weight drop from 22# to 13#?

 

Titanium cannot be bent in a mandrel bender the way stainless steel or alumanized steel can be. This is the reason for the sectioned radius. As for pricing. MSRP on this exhaust with resonator will be $2495.00 Introductory price will be $1995 plus shipping.


Yes it is based on the forementioned system. Yes it is the same company. The quality of this piece is second to none. We recieved much interest in the exhaust but many were turned away by the price to weight ratio. Now the exhaust is nearly half the weight of a single sided exhaust and is less expensive than the previous version. The only sacrifice between this unit and the predecessor will be the sound. Expect this exhaust to be noticeably louder than the 4 muffler model.

Thanks,
Cliff

 

Glad to see you've lost those extra cans & bends... Lighter weight & better scavenge The old model might have been more mellow sounding, but it couldn't have helped flow - every 90° adding turbulence/backpressure . Even now I can't help wondering if the way you're forced to form the 90°'s will effect flow. Hope not. One consideration: If someone's gonna pop this much $ for a Ti exhaust they might opt for duals, straight out each side rather than the stock exit. What's a few more $ for mods & paint? You'd lose more weight & 2x 90's. With the price of Ti being what it is, using less can only help costs/price.

Grocery list of questions:

What I/D is this system? Does it maintain a constant I/D or does I/D change from front (straight section) to rear 'race track' like the OE does? What size are the exhaust tips - I/D & O/D? Which Ti alloy is used & what is wall-hickness of tubes/cans?

lastly, I might be alone in this, but the 'flamed' tips are WAY too ricey IMO. Raw or polished Ti has its own uinque & classy look. I find it funny that the import crowd needs this coloring in order to identify a Ti exhaust. Even more ironic is the faux-Ti colored tips its lead to.

Thank you for the new option

 

Cliff, thanks for sharing. Out of curiosity, is the center pipe 2.25"? It appears to be stock size... Thanks.

Nevermind... should have hit refresh on the thread to see the questions above...

 

titanium tubing can be mandrel bent; check the other post for some pictured pieces.

 

Yeah, but wouldnt you rather the exhaust look like robot legs?

 

Actually, I was thinking that if someone was that weight conscious the first thing they would do is drop the pointless dual can design. Next step would be removing the battery box and running it straight out the back.

I've been waiting for a vendor to offer such a thing. Wouldn't sell hundreds, but would definitely sell.

 

Why yes, of course

 

I/D of the straight pipe is 60mm which is just under 2.4 inches. The pipe changes in size to about 21/4" for the remainder. The tips are 3" O/D. The grade of titaninum is G2. Finally the wall thicknesses are 1 millimeter. The original exhaust "4 muffler" was installed on a car and run for about 5 mins. In this short amount of time the entire exhaust system changed color. Wherever the exhaust was the hottest there was a blue fade. Im sure the tips wouldnt look quite so perfect but there would be some natural color change.

 

Jeff, if I were ever to change my system, it would be to just that. I'm just minus the Ti now...

And from what I gather, you are correct re the demand. The limiting factor, from the many PMs I've received, is the surgery on the box.

 

Your mailbox is full

 

I am 90% sure we have a few 90 and 45 Titanium bends at work. Are you absolutely sure of this fact? Greddy, HKS etc...all sell Titanium systems for cars such as the RX8 and 350Z that all require losts of bends like the Mini and I have never seen a "sectioned radius" like that. IMO does not look nice at the bends especially for the price.

 

The manufacturer has stated that there are certain pieces which cannot be mandrel bent due to the size and angle. Particularly the smaller pipes. They are proud of their "intricate" technique and say many are attracted to their exhausts because of the look it creates. The welds are flawless and in person I feel it looks like a piece of art.

 

This might be, but I'm skeptical. ...I'm sure there are limits as to tube wall thickness, vs. radius. I suspect its more likely capability/equipment they have - no disrespect. I can appreciate that the mnfr. is proud of his welds/ingenuity, but I just see added work to mnfr., time & expense + the possible turbulence issues.
AND
Unfortunately no one is going to get to see how good the welds are, unless they're under the car - though good welds are very important.

 

nice!

 

Cliff,
It looks very similiar to many of the ti exhaust that come out of taiwan and china(no offense), but what makes this cost so much more?And I thought my bf was crazy buying these stupid expensive exhausts

 

Here are a couple more pictures of this exhaust on a car. A video has been recorded with audio and I will try to post that later today.