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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 01:12 PM
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Catch Can install

I have searched and couldnt find anything. Does anyone have a how to on it?
 
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 01:28 PM
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Check under Webb Motorsports. Randy has a bunch of install info's available. I have the Alta catch can and the hardest thing was where to put the can.. I put mine on the passenger side firewall. Have to drill some holes and make sure to get some rubber grommets .
 
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 01:50 PM
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Is the alta CC harder to install than the alta CAI?

I also would appreciate an install guide of some sorts. Don't see anything under Randy's 'how to' section.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 11:37 PM
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I checked the website and could not find any how tos. Does anyone know how to install it?
 
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 11:29 PM
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Anyone ?
 
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 12:50 AM
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How about this thread:

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=50668
 
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 03:25 AM
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As to the mounting location of the can, it depends on what brand you have as clearance is tight when the hood is closed. This thread has lots of photos through-out it. Catch cans

As for plumbing the can......I have installed two cans (see my two posts on the thread), one on the PCV curcuit and the other on the valve cover breather vent, and would recommend that you plumb yours into the PCV curcuit only.

The reason I say this is because that is the only place I am picking-up any oil, and tighing the two curcuits together effects the pressure balance inside the engine, which in my opinion....is not a good idea.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 05:21 AM
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Here are instructions.

1) find location for the can - ensure hood closes.
2) cut tube, add extension or replace w/ new tubing - routing via the can.

Not much too it!
 
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 09:06 PM
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Dale i am doing the the home made one you made. But i am having trouble finsing where to put the second tube. I know one goes out of the valve cover but where does the other one go?
 
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Old Nov 7, 2005 | 04:23 AM
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motorsports_3:

I used 3/8” fuel line. The “intake” line runs from the PCV (located on the passenger side) of the valve cover to the can. The “outlet” line runs from the can to the gray tube located behind intercooler. The gray tube is where the original OEM line from the PCV went to…..if that makes sense. So basically you are just putting the catch can in the original line.

As I remember, I don’t think that you have to remove the intercooler to attach the hose, but if you want to remove the intercooler to gain easy access, it is not difficult to do.

A note on the general plumbing. The line from the PCV runs to the gray tube, which ties into the down stream side of the throttle body. The line from the valve cover vent ties into the up stream side of the throttle body. Due to the pressure differences during idle, part throttle, and full throttle, these two independent lines draw vacuum according to their own design and functions. After reading all the discussion about the differential pressures, I decided to run two separate cans. I am finding that the second can is really not needed as I am not seeing any oil in it. There are some folks that have installed the can from the PCV and then using a tee on the outlet side to connect both “upstream” and “downstream” throttle body lines together. Don’t buy into this………as even the Alta guy admits that he runs two separate cans on his personal vehicle.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2005 | 10:49 AM
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I installed it last night. Thanks Dale. I have only had it for one day and allready noticing traces of oil.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 12:32 PM
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Wow it looks like i really needed it. Only two days later and i already have a good amount of oil in the bottom.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 10:54 AM
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I have a question on this: I wanna install a catch can in the PCV line. I understand the can just goes in line with the plumbing, but does the black hose disconnect from the gray tube under the IC?

Did most of you just cut the black hose and extend it to the can?

Can you easily remove the line from the valve cover and install a new line?
i.e i want to use one piece of hose to the can, and one piece back to the gray tube.

Thanks!
 
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 06:00 PM
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This is how I have mine installed. The black line (grey tube) is capped off.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 03:03 PM
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how did/where did you mount the can, i had mine behind the pass. firewall, but theres lots of hose, i like the one in the pix above, but not sure how to mount the can so it wont move
 
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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 06:01 PM
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what are you suppossed to do with the driver side outlet if you decide not to connect both of them together??? the m7 occ directions say to use i breather filter???? what is that?? also is it even worth going back if u already connected both outlets. someone above said it effects the pressure in the engine. how does that make sense. why would they even put that as an option if it effects engine pressure.?

tha nks
 
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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 06:49 PM
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I just used some zip ties to hold the can in place. You need to be careful about positioning the can so you don't hit the headlight assembly when closing the bonnet, but it works great !

jammin636: Not sure what you are asking about. The grey (black in pic) tube that is capped off is a high vacuum line that is located on the passenger side of the valve cover.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 07:25 PM
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as for motor pressure, so long as the block isnt sealed tight your basically good, not ideal, but not bad. Idealy what you want is to draw the oil vapour and gas out of the block (so pressure doesnt bust the block wide open) and to take condensation out of the block. Back in the old days engines had a road draft tube, basically there was a pipe on the top of the engine with a filter (steele wool usually) and a pipe that went down trew the pan and open on the back, so a venturi effect would happen and draw the vapours out. Of course this was before pvcs (or useless other emissions cr.., hmm, stuff). So, what i plan on doing (upon closer examination of which pipe does what, i forget at present, but its in the bently book) is a pcv filter on one (can get them at napa or the like), maybe an oil catch can on the other simply so i dont have oil running out the pipe that is going to be run down to the bottom of the motor for the road draft, and getting all over the bottom of my car (or driveway). For those that are interested anyway....

Beecher
 
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 06:42 AM
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k i get it now. ill start lookin for a filter to put on the other pcv. does the grey hose still stay capped when you do that?
 
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 07:45 PM
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I would recommend hooking it up like my diagram. I allows the can to collect all vapors.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 07:36 AM
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thats how i have mine set up right now too. so that setup does a good job collecting vapors? if just having it on the one side is better than i rather do that and just go get a pcv filter for the other side.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 06:03 PM
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Yep, I get about half a can of vapor and condensation every couple of months. I also have a couple of copper "scrubbers" in the can to act as a baffle.
 
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