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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 08:22 PM
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SteveS,

After talking with BMW and Ford (who also uses the Getrag) engineers, I have no doubt the gearbox will have no problem with 245 -255 hp.

Sleepless (great name btw),

I have actually been surprised at how much traction is available once the suspension is set up correctly - the key being the rear swaybar. Until fitment issues are worked out, I plan to run wihtout the LSD and see how it works out.

So far, no drivabilty issues have arisen - I'll keep you posted.

Higher octane gas is out, since I'm designing it to work on the street as well. It will work with pump gas (91-93 US).

The track testing is already scheduled. We have already done some extensive testing, and plan to continue developing products on the track. You just can't simulate track conditions.

itsthedirtybird,

Fair price is still being determined. I would like to offer it a la carte, so that if you have an intake and exhaust already, you won't shell out the full amount. It would also be available piece by piece so you could build it one step at a time if that's all your wallet (or whoever controls yor wallet ) could handle.

As for the installation cost, we haven't yet scratched the surface for the possibilities out there. We could have installation facilities established around the country, and inspect all of them for quality control; or we could trust you with choosing your own mechanic and just sell the package outright, or we could give you an option and develop "Motorsport Approved" shops, or part of the package may be sending the supercharger here for disassembly and reassembly as well as the ECU programming - I really don't know yet. Any input on what you would like to see happen would be appreciated.

Ben,

Thanks!

Where are you in FL? That's my old stomping ground. I'm envious of the tracks you have available to you - Road Atlanta, Roebling Road, Sebring, Daytona, Moroso, Homestead - sigh.

As I said above, I still don't know where we are going with the install options. The ECU and the pulley itself look like they will be the biggest issues. Talk to the shop and see what ideas they have. Are they familiar with the MINI yet? Which shop is it by the way?


Well, I hope that answered some of the questions. Keep them coming, as it is bringing good points to light.

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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 02:53 AM
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Blank to all. I am an Italian boy. In the first place excused for my bad English. I would want to know if one is necessary to modify the ECU adapting smaller pulley.
If did not modify the ECU would happen? I would risk to break off the motor? Is true that the superchanger overheats a lot? Thanks thousands to all :smile:
 
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 06:45 AM
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Ben where are you at in Fl? I live in Melbourne and I am planing to do my own and would not be against helping someone else. I have the pulley and was going to do the job this weekend but I think I am going to wait till the ecu is figured out. SOON I hope. Hint Hint Randy.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 08:49 AM
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Randy,

Thanks so much for the blow by blow on the R&R. I really like seeing how it's all put together. Although I don't think I'll be jumping on this one really soon by myself. (I think my wife would just think I'm nuts).

Some thoughts on your a la carte packaging. I like the concept of a menu to choose from and then have my independent mech. do the install (BMW; also Dinan dealer). Great program. Keep us posted as I'm sure I'll be making some upgrades with you.


 
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 12:16 PM
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Actually the shop that did my pulley upgrade said I am getting BETTER A/F mixture now with the upgraded pulley than stock! (that is a pulley upgrade WITHOUT ECU upgrade)

>> Did you do an A/F ratio measurement?>>

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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 12:20 PM
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Yes I agree those tracks ROCK, as I get to play on them all the time

>>>Where are you in FL? That's my old stomping ground. I'm envious of the tracks you have available to you - Road Atlanta, Roebling Road, Sebring, Daytona, Moroso, Homestead - sigh. >>
 
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Old Feb 3, 2003 | 08:15 PM
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VERY, VERY NICE Randy!!! You have topped yourself. Actually it doesn't look too bad. Not much worse than pulling out the entire interior to put in the stereo. (: These things are made to assemble quickly and come apart a lot easier than they used to.

Will you be renting tools, Randy? Seriously, FEDEX overnight the puller and tensioner with a Mastercharge deposit?

Can't wait for you to beta the software. Could you describe the hardware and software necessary to program one's own ECU?

Also, what was the reduction percentage you used on this car?
 
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Old Feb 3, 2003 | 08:29 PM
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>>VERY, VERY NICE Randy!!! You have topped yourself. Actually it doesn't look too bad. Not much worse than pulling out the entire interior to put in the stereo. (: These things are made to assemble quickly and come apart a lot easier than they used to.
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>>Will you be renting tools, Randy? Seriously, FEDEX overnight the puller and tensioner with a Mastercharge deposit?
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>>Can't wait for you to beta the software. Could you describe the hardware and software necessary to program one's own ECU?
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>>Also, what was the reduction percentage you used on this car?

FedEx the puller and tensioner, um, I don't know about that. Maybe. I'll give it some more thought.

ECU depends on what you are doing. One method uses a piggyback box that allows the laptop to plug and play with timing and fuel curves - the easiest way is to be on a dyno too. Another uses a cable that downloads the info into a file that goes to the UK and is rewritten then read back onto the ECU, all through the OBDII port and a laptop. The other way is to have the flash capablity on site and plug right into the ECU - similar to the second method but without the middle-man.

The pulley on the car is a 15%. With this setup, however, any size between stock and 15% could be used.

Let me know if you have any other questions. Hope that helped!

Randy
 
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Old Feb 4, 2003 | 08:20 AM
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DYNO RESULTS!
Hey guys, just wanted to show you the before/after dyno results (pdf file). This was performed on a mustang dyno, so the numbers would be different if ran on a dynojet.

My Web Site, Please click on DYNO at the bottom right of the page.

Thanks,
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Old Feb 4, 2003 | 09:10 AM
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Aimee -

While I'm not familiar with Mini dyno results these seem a bit strange. The hp in the mod engine between 6k and 6.5k RPM is up about 10 HP and the diff over stock is up 8.4 hp (% differences of 6% and 57%). Over the same hp range the stock hp climbs only about 2HP or less than 1%. What could be going on in this very narrow rev range that could be allowing for such a dramatic increase over stock? Don't know what the map looks like but it could be that reprograming could bring about a very significant change.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2003 | 11:45 AM
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What does the A/F ratio look like for the run on the dyno?
 
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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 02:21 PM
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I would have thought that the A/F mix would go lean becuase there is more air going into the system....I know when you turbo a car it goes way lean unless you put fuel system upgrades on it.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 01:43 PM
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Can this post be made a sticky and/or merged with the other version of the pulley how to? For some reason, that other post in the "how to" sticky section does not show the photos, but this one does show the photos. Can one of the moderators help? Thanks! The other post is located here:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ead.php?t=8466
 
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