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Old 08-27-2005, 09:58 PM
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What are the 300+whp cars doing for fuel systems

I am in the process of redoing my fuel system. Just wanted to see what you twin charge guys are doing to get more fuel. I am planning on a return style setup with a walbro pump.

Just wanted to see if you guys are changing the fuel pump to fuel rail lines and the fuel rail or just simply running a return line back to the fuel tank.

Any info would be great. And if any of you can contact El for me then that would be great also.
 
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Old 08-27-2005, 10:16 PM
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uhh, unless you're actually getting 300+WHP, you're going overboard. Just install bigger injectors, it seems the stock returnless fuel system, including pump and rail, are sufficient for 300cHP MCS's. Of course, installing a fuel pressure gauge will help determine if you need to upgrade the pump. I'm not sure why you would want to impliment a return line though.
 
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Originally Posted by Ryephile
uhh, unless you're actually getting 300+WHP, you're going overboard. Just install bigger injectors, it seems the stock returnless fuel system, including pump and rail, are sufficient for 300cHP MCS's. Of course, installing a fuel pressure gauge will help determine if you need to upgrade the pump. I'm not sure why you would want to impliment a return line though.
I am already a bit over 300chp. I am just barely starting to have a lean out at 7,000 rpm. I am planning of doing something north of 320-340 whp.
 
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Old 08-28-2005, 02:03 PM
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Is this the right link? All I found was info on MTH and Evo tech ecu software.
 
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how is your supercharger holdin up to that 23% reduction??? i cant imagine it will last too long due to over revving the supercharger, has anyone running this setup done a tear down and looked at the supercharger say after 1000 miles??/.
 
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how is your supercharger holdin up to that 23% reduction??? i cant imagine it will last too long due to over revving the supercharger, has anyone running this setup done a tear down and looked at the supercharger say after 1000 miles??/.
I just had the horn off going to the intercooler the other day and didn't see anything out of the ordinary. I have the intercooler off weekly and have not seen any metal flakes. I have over 15,000 miles on my setup.
 
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wow that is quite impressive, thanks for sharing! do you shift earlier in the rpm band to prevent over revving the supercharger??
 
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http://www.rceng.com/about.htm

They have injectors for our cars up to 750cc i think they said.
 
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750cc is wuite rediculous and non usable.. unless of course you put a DSM motor in...
 
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You can put bigger injectors in a car all day and still be running lean. My fuel injectors are not the limmiting factor here. The fuel pump, fuel lines, and fuel rails are whats the problem.
 
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Originally Posted by spillman
I am already a bit over 300chp. I am just barely starting to have a lean out at 7,000 rpm. I am planning of doing something north of 320-340 whp.
How will you reach into the 320+'s, spillman?
 
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Amazing.........all that with a 380cc injector isnt bad . Id def go with a 440cc or 550cc
 
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Im not using a dry shot I am using a wet shot. I don't plan on changing injectors. I just need to get more fuel to the nitrous/fuel nozzle.
 
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Get out.....Your tellin me a 380cc is pleanty for what you have?

So all you need is a bigger fuel jet huh.
 
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Originally Posted by 1FSTMINI
Get out.....Your tellin me a 380cc is pleanty for what you have?

So all you need is a bigger fuel jet huh.
Actually I am seeing a lean out just barely at 7 grand but I can solve that with a different fuel pressure regulator.

And yes all you do is install a bigger jet that goes along with the larger nitrous jet. However I won't be using a larger jet. I will be using another valve all together. Hence the second stage. 75 shot for 1st and then whatever I want to use for 2nd.
 
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This is all with the stock internals?
 
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Originally Posted by 1FSTMINI
This is all with the stock internals?
Until it pops.
 
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haha i love that idea, wish i could do it! spillman is my new idol- you should have a video of when it pops or something
 
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Mine already popped.. now it has been a month since I've driven my Vader. BTW I don't want to be someone's idol.
 
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just joking, saying i wouldnt have the ***** to push it that far - givin respect to those who do. just something about the way he just said... till it pops that made me chuckle, i dont want his motor to pop or anyones for that matter. but this has nothing to do with the topic...
 
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I have already accuired the knowledge I wanted from a well respected person who is know longer a part of this community. I think we all know who I am talking about. It seems NAM is no longer the place to go if you need info about something new or something the vendors don't offer. Kind of sad really. I remember the good 'ol days when things really "went down" on here.
 
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ive been following your progress for a while now, people are learning stuff from your experience i think, i just dont know enough tech stuff yet to contribute but im learning if that means anything
 
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Originally Posted by btal40
ive been following your progress for a while now, people are learning stuff from your experience i think, i just dont know enough tech stuff yet to contribute but im learning if that means anything
I am still in the learning process along with everyone else in the MINI and every other automotive community. I just wish everyone wasn't so scared of trying new things with the car.

I don't think the levels of performance you can reach now are as far as our little 1.6L can be pushed. Call me crazy but sometimes I like to do things a little different then the way they are "supposed" to be done.
 
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spillman are you running a wet shot or a dry shot... i can't recall
 


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