Drivetrain seeking chip info & recommendations
seeking chip info & recommendations
I have a 03 MCS with 15% pulley, free air flow intake and One-Ball Exhaust. Did these mods a couple of weeks ago (bought the Mini used a couple of weeks ago) and am truely delight with these 3 mods - which I call "maximus bangus for the bucku$".
My objective is to enhance this daily driver adding thrills for as little $ as possible.
my first question is - I was told that with the above mods a chip is totally un-necessary? will I obtain a HP benefit ?
second question - pls recommend chip ?
BahamaBart
Ps at present working on adding a boost gauge - parts should arrive this week.
My objective is to enhance this daily driver adding thrills for as little $ as possible.
my first question is - I was told that with the above mods a chip is totally un-necessary? will I obtain a HP benefit ?
second question - pls recommend chip ?
BahamaBart
Ps at present working on adding a boost gauge - parts should arrive this week.
A chip can improve your hp slightly, but where in the powerband it improves will depend on the chip itself. The best bang for your buck is the MTH, but from my understanding, it only changes the timing. I don't have any experience with it, but there are a couple of vendors on here (including Randy Webb http://www.webbmotorsports.com/) that swear by the Uni-Chip. However, there are others here who totally dispute the value of it. In my limited opinion, I think the GIAC is the way to go. This is offered through Helix http://www.helix13.com/ and I believe alters the a/f ratio as well as the timing. It is more expensive than the MTH, and about the same as the Uni-Chip, but the 3-5hp gains are all the way through the powerband. GIAC's are also made by Garrett, which has been making top-of-the-line modification products for years.
If you have a dyno at your disposal (or at least nearby), you might consider a Euro-spec Apexi-II AFC. This little guy will allow you to custom tune your a/f, and since our supercharged engines run rich by default, can give you another 10hp at the wheels (with proper mods) by leaning out the mix.
If you have a dyno at your disposal (or at least nearby), you might consider a Euro-spec Apexi-II AFC. This little guy will allow you to custom tune your a/f, and since our supercharged engines run rich by default, can give you another 10hp at the wheels (with proper mods) by leaning out the mix.
Originally Posted by BelowRadar
GIAC's are also made by Garrett, which has been making top-of-the-line modification products for years.
You need to check your facts a bit closer - the GIAC ECU Flash from Helix is $325, and the Unichip from Webb is $735. I wouldn't classify that as "about the same".
I just pulled these prices off the respective vendor websites.
I just pulled these prices off the respective vendor websites.
Originally Posted by BelowRadar
A chip can improve your hp slightly, but where in the powerband it improves will depend on the chip itself. The best bang for your buck is the MTH, but from my understanding, it only changes the timing. I don't have any experience with it, but there are a couple of vendors on here (including Randy Webb http://www.webbmotorsports.com/) that swear by the Uni-Chip. However, there are others here who totally dispute the value of it. In my limited opinion, I think the GIAC is the way to go. This is offered through Helix http://www.helix13.com/ and I believe alters the a/f ratio as well as the timing. It is more expensive than the MTH, and about the same as the Uni-Chip, but the 3-5hp gains are all the way through the powerband. GIAC's are also made by Garrett, which has been making top-of-the-line modification products for years.
If you have a dyno at your disposal (or at least nearby), you might consider a Euro-spec Apexi-II AFC. This little guy will allow you to custom tune your a/f, and since our supercharged engines run rich by default, can give you another 10hp at the wheels (with proper mods) by leaning out the mix.
If you have a dyno at your disposal (or at least nearby), you might consider a Euro-spec Apexi-II AFC. This little guy will allow you to custom tune your a/f, and since our supercharged engines run rich by default, can give you another 10hp at the wheels (with proper mods) by leaning out the mix.
Originally Posted by BelowRadar
In my limited opinion, I think the GIAC is the way to go. This is offered through Helix http://www.helix13.com/ and I believe alters the a/f ratio as well as the timing. It is more expensive than the MTH, and about the same as the Uni-Chip, but the 3-5hp gains are all the way through the powerband. GIAC's are also made by Garrett, which has been making top-of-the-line modification products for years.
Mth is good for the money, not near the refinement of the giac but effective.
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