Mine idles fine..... LOL I just went through the chick-fil a just a few minutes ago...

 

Talking about some other alternative cars - I would think twice about poking fun at a Scion tC - this months issue of Modified features one with a turbo system pushing 500+ HP - they're saying the tranny will hold up to 600hp+. The Mini has alot of catching up to do

-shenmue

 

Wasn't thinking about yours specifically not idling..

The EVO 8 is quite mild as well and from what I understand steers just as fast or faster then the MCS.

 

I don't even think once about a Scion Tc. It's nice for what it is and I leave it at that. Modded or not..

P.S. I do like the Xb..I would buy that and just cruise it.

 

I think it is interesting seeing the developments, but I agree. If you are changing the car so much and putting $20,000 + into it, why don't you just purchase a different car? Some people saying the SRT-4 isn't pretty, but it seems that the focus isn't on looks but power for the cheapest price. If that is the case go with the SRT-4 or another car. You will save yourself a ton of money, have more power, and probably more fun with it. I can see upgrading the car to some extent, but spending so much money on changing all aspects of the suspension, brakes, interior seats, transmission, clutch, LSD, major engine modifications, can you even call it a Mini.

 

Ok first of all SRT-4 sucks. I know Misfit's MCS or El Diablito's MCS would beat that with their setup, including the 355 hp package for the SRT-4. SRT-4's weigh too much plus, people only buy them to be macho IMHO. Heck, I kept up with two heavily Modded SRT-4's in my slightly Modded CVT Cooper. Second of all it's PLAAAAAAAAAASTIIIIIIIIIIIIC!

Don't forget EVO's blow their clutches too easily! Can you say,"Bye,Bye!"

And my trunk IS Usable!

 

Evos only blow up clutches if the owners dump the clutch at the dragstrips, and the Evo trunk is much more usable then a MCS. Let me put it this way, you can carry a spare tire and still have tons more space then the boot of a MCS. At the last autocross I went to stock EVO 8's were four seconds faster then the quickest MCS'. Don't forgot they are street legal rally cars. They come with big reds stock and recaro seats. The MR version of the EVO has an alumunium roof which is suppose to lower the cg of the car something like two inches compared to the regular EVO 8.

If it sounds like I am impressed with it's performance it's because I've seen it in action in person and not just from reading the Internet.

 

You kept up two heavily modded SRT-4s? The curb weight of the SRT-4 is 2900lbs and modified they would be quite a bit faster then stock. Where were you racing the SRT-4's?

My friends SRT-4 dyno'd 215 hp at the wheels bone stock. Others dyno'd at 225 hp at the wheels stock.

 

Or if the owner is 18-21 years old and they are spoiled just like in Ann Arbor. It happens to be a college town full of them, I see them stranded at the greenlight because they couldn't learn to drive their cars properly. Plus why not put money in your car so you can improve it. I really could care less about how much i drop into my car but i have seemingly reached a limit as I should not mod my CVT otherwise I will be paying for some new valves, and a CVT tranny. I know they don't come cheap. Thats why I am ordering a MCS within the week. basically bone stock except heated seats Sport, LSD and Harman Kardon. Oh BTW the color is going to be JB/B with Space Gray Interior minus the Chrono Pack.

 

I was in Minneapolis along I-94 through a series of Tunnels. Oops, shouldn't be posting the where-abouts. BTW My CVT has 89 whp. pretty peppy as I should say for a CVT

And 3rd gear is a dog

 

I suspect you were referring to turns because I don't think any CVT cooper could keep up with a SRT-4 in the straights. The SRT-4 is too soft from the factory but a slight suspension change and that all changes. While I agree that it's a cheap car it's got guts and with the right mods it's a very potent car and cheap to build.

 

Nopers straights all the way, and please notice I was keeping up, no more than 4 feet behind them. Not besides him or in front of them

 

Four or five EVO 8s ran the autocrosses and none of them stall them at the line. In fact, this track was fast and the GS MCS ran 42-43 secs while the EVO 8 in AS ran 38-39 secs. The one EVO 8 I saw at the dragstrip ran mid 12 sec quarter miles consistently..and when the weather cooled a bit it was in the low 12 sec quarter miles. I saw it run at least 6 times in an hour and a half. It's pretty easy to get those guys up to 500 hp so while it's not the king of imports (that title still belongs to the single turbo supra) it's got street cred...just like the Cooper does. Most EVO guys like the cooper so keep that mind while discussing them.

You'll have a good time when you get your MCS. Let's hope you twin charge it so we can read about your adventures.

 

Sorry, I don't think they were seriously racing you or they really didn't know how to drive. Those cars just have too much power for you to keep up in the straights. Without going too deep into magazine racing...grassroots motorsports tested theirs at the track and it ran 13.96 stock.

Since you wrote that they were straights I think you if you posted some timeslips with a SRT-4 as your opponent that would qualify as a valid race.

 

You're right about twincharging, I am going to be doing that. Most likely the set-up El Diablito is running too! Probably wondering why I chose black also eh? To keep a low Profile. With my current Set-up with K&N Intake, Schrick Cam, Miltek Header, Helix13 Cat-Back, H&R Rear Sway Bar; It's loud and the color is LY/LY with Aero Kit. Nearly impossible to keep a low profile unless you happen to be out in the middle of no-where in Arizona. But you will be reading upon my adventures. And they will be a blast to see my family's faces when I drive in with an Black MCS instead of the normal LY MC. My Mods for the MCS are as listed, Twincharge, Miltek Header, Miltek Cat-Back, Unichip, Alta CAI or HAI depending on Ryephiles results from his upcoming tests, 15% pully, Detroit Tuned's Suspension Set-up, BBK, 35% tint, Already have the Exel Radius Hyperblack wheels, Plugs, Wires, Coil Pack, Auto-Rotor, anything else I miss? I don't want NO2 because then I am going to be shot by the insurance company. Oh don't forget about the unlimited Twisties coming in sight and local drag strip visits. Is this list big enough?

 

You are probably right about not seriously racing me. It gets crowded with cops in Minneapolis St. Paul area on weekends since the Sherrif's Son just had to set the world record for a police chase at 211 MPH!

 

Ha! There's no way I believe that! Believe me when I say that I'm not a Neon fan (as there's some serious UGLY going on there), but I came up against one of the 355 HP SRT-4's in my 05 JCW MCS and that thing left me in the dust. By the time I hit third gear, it had to have been a football field length in front of me at least. I'll admit that I'm not an experienced racer by any means (and I had my wife in the car whereas he was alone), but that thing really moved. If you beat a modified RST-4 in your CVT MINI (or even in a modified MCS), then it had to of been in your dreams.

Now mind you, that I'm sure that El D's MINI would give the car a run for its money (althoug I'd still put my money on the Neon), but look at the difference in the amount of money spent on the two cars. There's just no comparison now is there?

 

It's getting hot in here

Is it possible to tune MINI to 400HP?...or 500HP?

 

I'm new to the Mini, but the car must have significant head-flow issues if they are only extracting 220WHP at 14PSI with this turbo.

On a 1.6L honda (where I'm coming from), this turbo would yeild at least 250.

This is a VERY nice turbo though, and not something chosen for peak HP numbers. Driveability should remain very nice. The price seems a little high - maybe it could come down if production picks up?

 

Have you pulled the head off the mini and looked into the ports?
that will answer your question

 

What is this 355hp srt-4 yall are talking about? I know thats not there stock hp so......


liljack and matchbox

 

the 355 HP SRT-4 is the on package that Mopar offers for the Neons.

 

If you want to race, buy a RACE CAR. If you want a unique, blast to drive, attention grabber, buy a Mini. You'll get more smiles per hour. You park any of these cars mentioned on a parking lot next to a Mini, see which car the people huddle around. Cease the bashing! Get the car you like, and like the car you get! Just my .02

 

People...whats wrong with this picture!? You can't compare Evo's and Neons to MINI's There is no comparison, just differences;the Mini is the best handling front wheel drive car on the planet at any price, who said it had to be the fastest? The Evo is the best all around awd performance car for under $30k, and the Neon is the fastest straight-line performance front wheel drive car on the planet.
The only thing you can compare is the engines in the MINI and SRT-4. The MINI's is a smaller displacement version of the Neon SRT-4, if you've had the oppurtunity to see them both apart, there are some big similaruties, the bottom ends are almost identical, the differences are in the bore and stroke. So, granted, the Neon motor will make more power no matter what you do to it, it's nearly a liter larger in displacement!

 

Take it to the track and let's see some timeslips. :smile: