I thought it would be good to have a centralized thread detailing the range of normal 0-60 times for MCS's at variouse stages of modding.

We can start with a baseline of normal 0-60 range for a stock MCS as experience by owners (NOT AS SHOWN IN PUBLISHED ARTICLES). I want REAL WORLD DATA. This is a thread to trace 0-60 times as actually achieved by MCS owners.

So we'll do it something like this:

Stock 0-60 range

15% pulley 0-60 range

17% pulley 0-60 range

19% pulley 0-60 range

15% pulley + exhaust 0-60 range

17% pulley + exhaust 0-60 range

19% pulley + exhaust 0-60 range

15% pulley + exhaust + Software Upgrade 0-60 range

17% pulley + exhaust + Software Upgrade 0-60 range

19% pulley + exhaust + Software Upgrade 0-60 range


We can follow this general pattern adding 0-60 ranges for other mods as owners supply their results. I look forward to seeing your results.

 

No 0-60 times for me but my STX car does pull 2.2 sec. 60' times at some of the Pro Solo's and drag strips do give 60' and 330' times as well, so I'd be interested those times from people.


205/50/15 Azenis, Quaife, SSR's, Full exhaust inc. headers, UNICHIP, Intake

 

how are suggesting measuring time and velocity with consistency? dragstrips don't do 0-60mph times, right?

 

Nope and 0-60 isn't really a good measure of a car's performance. If you want a better measure compare 1/4 mile times as it is more consistent with the power the car actually has provided driver skill remains the same
Mike

 

I think 1/4 mile times would be helpfull as well. I have no problem posting that data.

As for measuring and gathering of these data, I will leave that up to those who are inclined to contribute. I have little knowledge in the gathering of such data and what is the best way to go about it. I know there are plenty of posters that have such knowledge and means.

 

The best way would be with timing equipment similar to what the magazines use but most of us don't have access to that stuff. I think there are some online calculators that can give you your 0-60 time based on your 1/4 mile time and weight or hp and weight.
Mike

 

Well Andy already has a 1/4 mile chart set up.

 

Those calculators are far from accurate, to do it right you need pro timing equipment or one of those GPS meters that starts with the cars first move and then measures time and distance via satalite. G-sport makes one thats gotten good press.

Car manufactors are so quick to advertised 0-60 times because it is so hard for the consumer to verify and 0-60 times have so many variables dependant on driver,tires,track surface, and the timing equipment. Road and track magazine have done several storys about this very topic.

 

Actually, 0-60 times are quite easy to measure if you have the correct tools:



Note: It's important to compare your results to a measured standard. For example, in the above run, my time and speed were within 0.1s and 0.1 mph of the timeslip.

As greatgro mentioned, this chart has 30+ MINI 1/4 mile times, measured at actual dragstrips.

http://www.ross-tech.net/andy/mini/d...artermile.html

 

Dyno 1/4 mile and 0-60 times dont take into consideration wheel spin off the line since the vehicle is strapped down onto the dyno wheel. The front wheels rotate on the dyno wheel with little resistance to avoid wheel spin, and the HP is calculated by how fast and quickly the wheel drum is spun. The dyno does take in consideration the distance traveled but can not compinsate for real world conditions such as lose of traction or wind resistance or vehicle weight. The dyno run above is impressive (0-60 mph in 3.5 seconds) but to equal those times on the track would mean leaving the line with the same rate of exceleration without any wheel spin ( lose of traction )what so ever, and no wind resistance,and with a vehicle that weighed 0 pounds, good luck. This is exactly why publication and media take vehicles tested to actual tracks instead of using dyno plots.

 

Prw3, I think you mis-read the above graphic. First I don't think it's a dyno run, it appears to be output from some sort of ECU monitor or an accellerometer. And secondly, there 0-60 time was ~6.5 seconds, not the 3.5 you mention (green is engine RPM while red is MPH).

 

FYI, note that a $300,000 Rolls phantom, 5,800 lbs!, does a sub 6 sec 0-60.

 

Yep, that log was done at the dragstrip (see title of graph) and I logged the average speed of the rear wheels, along with rpm. The results were spot-on with my timeslip.

 

Thanks for the correction Andy, I assumed that was a dyno print out and mis read the graph. Ive seen a few folks post Dyno runs 0-60 and 1/4 mile times and then wonder why they ran a 12 second 1/4 mile time on the dyno but could only post a 15 second run at the strip.

 

not bad for a car with over 450 HP

 

This thread is going to make our cars seem soooo slow

 

Base on this movie clip, I did 0-60 at 10 seconds...not bad huh!

Here are factors:
- 04 MCS
- V39 software
- BMP CAI
- Invidia Exhaust
- Shift at 3500rpm
- Not a straight line take-off
- 3 people in the car (driver, camera man and spectator)
- DSC on
- Full tank of gas
- After lunch
- ASA AR1 + AVS100 = at least 42Lbs
- 80°F outside
- 5-10 degree incline

0-60

 

A 14.7xx 1/4 is really pretty good considering the minimal amount of mods done to the car. I'm actually very impressed with that considering the stock times the MCS puts out. It gives me hope for future modding, knowing that around here...I can hang with, and very easily beat alot of the guys racing cars at the local tracks....makes me happy That time on a 2.4 60ft is very impressive to say the least...getting it closer to 2.0 as you can will surely net you sub 14.5 timeslips, and more than likely closer to low 14s....I like!!!!!

 

Tony At VMR when its prepped properly. Bone Stock MCS with sunroof can pull the 15.4. No Sunroof 15.3. Add after market exhaust (mine was super trap) 15.1. Throw in 15% or 19% some light weight wheels and good tires 14.4. The Lightweight Flywheel and good clutch i pulled a few 14.2.

As for beating the guys around here at the track.. I've Done the Battle of the Imports for 2 years (last year it was cancled) 3 years ago I won the event with the Bone Stock sunroof cladded mini. The following year I made it to the Semi's with the new non-sunroofed mini with the Supertrapps and lost to a B210 Datsun by .02. Which i dont mind you couldnt ask for a better race. Met him again at a Nopi Race and lost again by .03 in the second round. Afterwards when cruising the Pits he flagged me down where i spoke with him and the guys from Streetglow. Where they ended up being very impressed. They thought i had the Mini with a launch control and it being an Automatic (same as the guys B210). During the races and some warmup testing 17 runs at TBOTI and 6 at the nopi event. no launch was worse than .510 best being .500 .. did redlight once with a .499 and ET's were within .1 of said time. Well instead of going on and Puffing out my chest somemore here online. I'll see you at Ledgens for the RCM meet on monday

 

Mugami, very cool...good to hear that you're getting those times, and especially at VMP...that track can be such a hit or miss as far as prep and conditions that it's hard to tell what you're going to do when the time comes. Legends on Monday, I'm still trying to figure out if I can make it, and I'll let you all know for sure on the RCM boards...although RedBaron has offered to help me with a pulley install sometime in the near future, so if I don't meet up with you then, perhaps we'll meet at a fun pulley party sometime in January or the Tech Day for DCMM on the 8th if you belong and are going to that in MD...thanks


Tony.