Are they worth it? I'm not looking for a bashing here from people who have not tried or bought them (cost/value/opinion). I bought the heavy duty Magnacors and the engine seems to Idle better . I also put in new high performance plugs plugs (IK22 I think, it's early) I'm wondering if the Nologys are that much better

 

no one will bash you but say that if the magnecor is doing well then why bother changing? i dont have it but i've sat in friend's car with the nology wires against one with the firewires... and i cannot feel ANY difference watsoever, even the owners themselves say that!

 

After looking at what was available, I bought the big Kingsbournes from Joe at RSpeed. I knew they probably shouldn't make a difference, but at least in my mind I thought they helped the smoothness of the car. But I'd not want to prove they make a difference on a dyno!!!

 

I have a set of Nology wires on my 04 JCW and I can tell that they did smooth out the idle, but as far as feeling a BIG difference in the seat of your pants dyno. I can't say I felt it, like when I installed my Alta CAI. But the main reason the I got them is, I was looking for a little more performance and Randy Webb recommended them, and everything Randy has says works, so far for works for me. All I know is when I go to the track something is working right.
Larry

 

In theory, the design of the Nology's will improve low-RPM throttle reponse due to a stronger spark from the capacitive discharge (think of 'em as a mini-MSD box). Even though that seems like a bit of snake oil (and I was certainly skeptical myself), when I loosely measured time-to-RPM from idle, they were a bit quicker. Helpful for downshifting!

Furthermore, higher HP MCS's need all the help they can get in the ignition department to help avoid misfiring. Higher voltage coil-pack, colder heat-range plugs, and better wires all help.

 

I bought a set and had them and the Beru plugs on my last car. About 20,000 miles later I went back to OEM wires and NGK plugs, no noticeable difference.
I do not have a set on my MCS.
I would stick with the Magnacors and check out thier (Magnacors) webb site.
Now if you teamed them up with a Plasma Booster, well then you would have two decals + two LED's and a lighter wallet which won't make your MINI any faster.
Am I critical? Yes I guess so and so are a few other others for instance,
http://iwcweb.com/eclipse/html/warning.html

 

Ironically (maybe not ironically), the Plasma Booster and the Nology wires are the brainchildren of the same braintrust!

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...6&postcount=61

 

My car still is "jerky" at 3000 rpm steady state in any gear. I will try anything that will get rid of it. (hence the new wires and plugs) I am told the JCW software is my best bet. Will the Pilo racing coil help?

 

I purchased the Pilo ignition upgrade and had mixed results. The coil actually failed [ended up junking it], but I did notice a smoother idle with just the Crane wires on. I ended up switching to Nology wires because I was not happy with the fit of the Crane wires. The Nology wires seem to perform the same or slightly better than the Cranes did.

 

I bought he magnacor 9mm and they do seem like they are doing something at idle. I wonder if the Pilo coil pack (assuming no failure) will have the the same positive effect that the nologys did....idle to rpm?

 

I won a set of Nology wires at a local MINI event. My car is stock.

I didn't like the way they fit - they are longer than stock and they just don't seem to fit right. From what I've seen, the magnecor wires fit like stock.

After installing the Nology wires, I did notice a difference. Not extreme - but noticable.

If I didn't get them for free I would have never paid the price they charge for them.

Also - I emailed Nology tech support when I got them to ask if there were any special installation notes - they have this for other cars on their site, but not for the MINI. I never got a reply...

 

I have a set in my MCS. I put them in along with PILO Colipack and IK22s so I can't really tell you the effect of Nology alone but engine response got noticeably better.

 

Thanks, that is the set up I think I will try

 

Sigh, Andy; Logical fallacy

 

Randy Webb once suggested:
For the MC try the Magnacors
For the MCS try the Nologys
But for both, wires should be one of the last options for mods.

Since you already have the Magnacors you can keep them or sell them but I'd doubt if you are feel any difference between the two sets.

 

Thanks

 

I don't follow you. Ulf and Werner didn't create Nology?

 

Again, why do you say "logical fallacy"?

 

I suspect Ryephile was referring to "poisoning the well." Strictly put, this is the act of discrediting an argument based upon its source, rather than addressing the factuality of the premises and the validity of the logic to determine the soundness of the argument.

As it relates to this discussion, it is the dismissal of the efficacy of a part or product from a particular source, based on one's opinion of the source, rather than the merits of the product itself.

However, I interpreted the specific comment to which Rye was responding-

not as an indictment of a particular product based soley on past experience with another:
"Beacuse product A produced by party C did not perform as advertised, product B produced by party C also will not perform as advertised,"

but rather as a caution to evaluate any product independently, rather than accepting a supplier's boilerplate as unbiased fact:
"Since testing and anecdotal obeservations of product A and Product B produced by party C indicate the products do not perform as advertised, party C should not be trusted to provide accurate statements regarding the performance of their products; rather, one should seek independent test results before buying."

That said, I have no firsthand experience, and thus, no personal opinion- either positve or negative- regarding any of the products developed by the company being referenced.

 

LOL, did everyone follow that. Are you a lawyer or professor, either way nice job Someone paid attention in "introduction to logic." (psst...psst...can I see your paper?)

 

Nope, I'm not a lawyer, although a few folks have suggested that I have missed my true calling.

I started out college as a biochemistry major. That was too much like work, though, so I switched to psychology, and then to philosophy. It was a fun-filled 5 years for me, since argument is one of my favorite social recreational activities.

While all this was going on, I kept myself and my cars fed by working as the cable guy, the alarm guy, a car restoration mechanic, a dealership auto tech, an auto insurance adjuster, and currently, a PC/LAN tech. If it involves spinning wrenches or cutting wires, and it pays decent money, I'll give it a try! (especially since a BA in phil. isn't, in and of itself, a big moneymaker...)

 

I bought some Kingsbournes based on a recommendation from Joe as well, and I did feel a smoothness. They are much cheapre than Nologys and I would bet that they feel the same.

 

Unh.......OKayyyyyy.

 

That's a full resume......nice job

 

It could also be said that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree ... or that the lubricant doesn't drip far from the serpent.