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05 R53 Cruise Retrofit Questions

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Old 07-19-2016, 03:44 PM
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So I went out to the junkyard this morning and checked out an other 05 r53 that came with cruise from the factory and it didn't have the switch or sensor on the clutch pedal. I got the switch from the brake light and it was a perfect fit for the clutch sensor. I got back to work and was able to fab up a quick little right angle tab so the sensor would have a trigger. I drilled and tapped a hole in the pedal to mount it instead of welding.

I'm not 100% sure that the post facelift cars like mine need this switch because the clutch already has a hall sensor on the master cylinder itself that prevents the car from starting in gear. It wouldn't be to far of a leap to assume that the sensor also operated the cruise cancellation. We'll see what happens Monday when I get it programed.
 
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How is your retrofit going. I have been gathering info and parts.


I have the post facelift clutch switch part numbers. It is not a pressure switch but a magnetic switch. the pre facelift was a contact switch or a momentary. the same switch as the brake pedal.




Post facelift part #


Clutch switch - 35316765622


Clutch switch sensor plate - 61319231129


both these parts are on ECS with pictures. look them up you will see they are the same parts shown in the post facelift retrofit instructions.


these are the only parts I am missing. and then I need to install, and figure out how to program. I hope I can figure out NCS expert and do it myself so I can turn on a bunch of other functions at the same time.
 
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Old 07-25-2016, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by gpwpat View Post
How is your retrofit going. I have been gathering info and parts.


I have the post facelift clutch switch part numbers. It is not a pressure switch but a magnetic switch. the pre-facelift was a contact switch or a momentary. the same switch as the brake pedal.




Post facelift part #


Clutch switch - 35316765622


Clutch switch sensor plate - 61319231129


both these parts are on ECS with pictures. look them up you will see they are the same parts shown in the post facelift retrofit instructions.


these are the only parts I am missing. and then I need to install, and figure out how to program. I hope I can figure out NCS expert and do it myself so I can turn on a bunch of other functions at the same time.
The hall sensor part number you gave is the sensor that is attached to the master cylinder. You could probably get it to work but I'm not sure exactly how. I think the facelift cars with cruise from the factory just used the signal from the sensor on the master to deactivate the cruise. Not 100% sure on that though.


Well, I got cruise control now! I tested it out and it's all working properly; the cruise deactivated with the brake or the clutch pedal.

Without further adieu, here is everything I did to get the cruise working in my car including prices:

$75-Ebay retrofit kit
Included parts
-Retrofit harness (pn: 61120136522)
-Steering wheel controls and harness
-Blank plug for DCM
-Clock spring/ slip ring (whatever you want to call it)
$5-Salvage yard brake/ clutch switch
$Free- Homemade right angle bracket bolted to clutch pedal (or you can use early style fat looking pedal)
$140-Computer re-programming

Total (not including labor) - $220
 
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Old 09-28-2016, 05:32 PM
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how did you translate these colors?

also my clutch switch is already connected to something, i've got an 06 mini, gonna just leave that wire unhooked for now

I think this..

BL is blue
WS/RT/GE is white/red/yellow
RT/BL red/black
BR brown
GE/BR yellow/bronw


 
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Old 09-28-2016, 05:40 PM
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one more

A9 goes to the black 12 pin plug x10200 on fuse holder II

what the hell does that mean?
 
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Attached is what I used to ID the wires.

Also you will need a second clutch switch to patch into the retrofit harness, if you leave it off and depress the clutch while under cruise it will throw a code, at least according to some other threads I read about the retrofit.

I kinda just ignored the table on that page, its more confusing to read it first. Just go through the rest of the instructions and it spells it out for you. That said A9 is a weird plug. A9 goes to the backside of the drivers side kick panel fuse box plug. The pins are numbered on the plug itself. Since your car is a facelift car like mine you might have to put the terminal in a different slot because pin 3 might be occupied (mine was). I can't remember the exact pin I used instead, I'll go bake and see if I still have my notes from when I did mine.
 
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Old 09-29-2016, 05:23 PM
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almost done, my pin 3 is occupied too, lemme know if you can remember what pin you used, and if it was already fused
 
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so I did a little research and I think that the fusebox wire is only used to power the clutch sensor hall effect switch, I will test continuity between the clutch connector and that power wire tonight.

I'm probably going to skip it for now, the trick is to disable the cruise before you press the clutch or you'll get a implausible clutch check engine

and I think we can just tap into the existing switch signal wire


anyone know what size tool to remove all these damned ecu pins from the connector?
 
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Old 09-30-2016, 10:53 AM
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The ECU pins are probably the hardest part of that whole job, my back hurts just thinking bout bending over the car for hours. I used a miniature flathead screwdriver and a terminal pin removal tool like this to get the pins out.


And I bet you could just tap into the clutch switch and the occupied pin slot to get it to work, I still can't find what I did there.
 
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Old 09-30-2016, 11:26 AM
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I think I can skip the fusebox if I tap the existing hall sensor

I ordered that same set of tools
 
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Old 10-02-2016, 04:17 PM
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well **** my pin 101 on the ecu connector is already occupied too
 
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Old 11-22-2016, 09:29 AM
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anyone else have this problem? I'm stuck at this point
 
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Bump

I have been looking and this is the most complete forum thread I have found. Did any of you ever finish this project? I have an 04 jcw that I want to do this to. I needed some body and interior stuff so I bought a complete 04 loaded non S model with a blown engine. It has all the luxury options in it. Headed seats, factory HID, HK radio, digital climate control, a dashboard that doesn’t looks like a Great Dane was locked in the car..... don’t ask I don’t know myself. Anyhow the thread just stopped. Did anyone ever finish is there any new info on the topic three years later?
 
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Old 03-03-2019, 06:28 AM
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mine is finished,I had to use the german instructions for facelift cars, the pinouts are different
 
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Facelift?

What do you guys mean by facelift?
 
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Hi - where would I find the German instructions for the facelift model? I have a 2005 R52.

Thank you
 
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Here's the pinouts for facelift cars taken from the German installation guide. Let me know if you need more info, except for coding and messing up one of the DME pins I'm almost done with this project.







 
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