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05 R53 Cruise Retrofit Questions

So I thought I had all the parts together to add cruise to my Mini and realized that I also need the cable that ties into all the computers and sensors.

Currently, the parts I have are
-Multi-function buttons
-Connecting line, steering wheel- 61316954014

I'm trying to do this on the cheap and I was wondering if it was possible to find the parts included in the cruise retrofit kit (part #65710395006) from salvage cars, or is the kit the only option.
 
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Some talk about it on the MINI Italy MINI forums, but i could not really see what they were doing .

Talked about here:

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...available.html

and here

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-cruise-2.html
 
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did you get your cruise control working? I'm looking to do the same with my 06, have used steering wheel & column coming soon
 
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did you get your cruise control working? I'm looking to do the same with my 06, have used steering wheel & column coming soon
Check the profile of the OP next time. Hasn't been online in over 2 months, doubt you'll get a response.
 
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Kidding right? I got a response from someone in another thread that has not been online in 3 years
 
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Kidding right? I got a response from someone in another thread that has not been online in 3 years
Wow, I think you're probably the only person that's ever happened to.

Really, people tend not to randomly come back from a hiatus more than a couple months. Pigs flew somewhere in Antarctica when you got that response.
 
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I dunno, I have email turned on so if someone bumps a thread I posted in years ago I tend to respond, I was away from this forum for 5 years
 
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Oh ye of little faith! 2 months is not that long to be away.

Actually I found only way to do the retrofit it is to buy the retrofit kit itself from Mini themselves. You can't do it with used parts. Still haven't done it to my car yet, I'm learning to live without cruise.
 
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I'm doing it with used parts, gonna go cut out a wiring harness Saturday at the local lkq
 
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Keep me posted. I was reading up on this. You need the steering wheel button, wires, clock spring, and then a wire that runs to the clutch? I have not seen a wire diagram. But I think it ties in to the computer with just 2 pins. In another forum the guy drilled out his blank holes and tied it in. Then you need a dealer program or mcs expert. I just bought a 05 JCW. If I don't get cruise control I'm going to get tickets.
 
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I got an entire wheel + column off ebay
 
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hthttp:// https://www.northamericanmot...-retrofit.htmltp://www.northamericanmotoring.com/forums/electrical/197630-help-with-cruise-control-retrofit.html
 
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http://www.outmotoring.com/images/ho..._MFSW_gen1.PDF

With the file above we can see the wire what needs to be connected and what color the wires are. I'm surprised they didn't just have all cars come with the wire. Seems like a hassle to have a different harness for this. This defiantly looks doable.
 
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-Cooper-...MAAOSwNuxXcCyc

Don't know if this is of any use to you. Found it when trolling fleabay.
 
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So I bought the "kit" that you posted from ebay. $75 bucks was a pretty smokin' deal.

I just spent the day tearing apart my dash and installing the kit according to the enclosed instructions and to the best of my ability. Not to difficult, just time consuming.

However, I have a very weird problem: my drivers side park lights stay constantly illuminated. I have to keep the battery unhooked as not to drain the battery. From what I cant tell, the park lights are controlled by the BC1 body control unit. The only thing I had to do to the BC1 was insert one terminal into hole 38 on the blue x255 connector. I've got a Bentley manual and I have been going over wiring diagrams and pin out charts, but nothing has made sense so far.

I've got an appointment with a local mini specialist to reprogram my car for the cruise and maybe he can clear or locate the problem with the computer.
 
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Wow. You got a great deal. I keep toying if it is worth buying the whole retrofit for $500. Or try to make my own from a harness from a wreck.
 
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Hi, I'm a automotive hypochondriac.

Instead of being a major fault with the BC1 or something crazy like that, it turns out that Mini's have this neat little feature that when you flip the turn signal right or left with the key not in the ignition, the park lights on that side stay illuminated. I've only seen this feature on my mothers 1984 500sl before so I never thought my car did it too.

Well everything else seems to be working so I'll report back after it is programed with everything it took to do the swap.
 
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you are lucky! I'm going to wire it myself and hack up a junkyard harness for the connector side

local yard has no harnesses right now, waiting for autocross season to finish
 
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Originally Posted by mega72
you are lucky! I'm going to wire it myself and hack up a junkyard harness for the connector side

local yard has no harnesses right now, waiting for autocross season to finish
Do yourself a favor and buy a retrofit cable, it's like 50 bucks. The part number is pn: 61120136522.
 
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is that cable still available ?
 
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Looks like ecs has it and will ship in August. I already have the buttons, and slip ring. I just need to source the clutch switch which I can also pirate out of my old car. But the 20 pin black plug. Ill see if I can find a part no for that.

I'm having trouble finding the part number for the 40 pin black plug z. Listed in the install instructions. Basically one of the 2 DCM plugs.
 

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I thought we just hand drilled the existing one out
 
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You have to disassemble the plug to drill it out, but it can be done.

New and exciting installment in the cruise saga, Thought I didn't actually need the clutch switch, but it turns out that its pretty important to the whole operation. I looked for a long while trying to figure out the switch but all I came up with was something like the switch the e46's use.

Finally I figured out that the switch that operates the brake lights is the same one as the clutch switch. I also figured out that the clutch pedal is different on cars with cruise and cars without. I can weld up just about anything so I might just end up welding up a tab on the side of the pedal. I'm going to a local salvage tomorrow so I can pull a switch and possibly a clutch pedal off of a car that has cruise.
 
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All good to know. I read that facelift cars have a different clutch switch. And maybe this is proof. I was looking at my 03 and it has the lever and the switch. The 05 does not. Reading the multi function steering wheel retrofit pdf for facelift they show a different switch. Possibly a pressure switch.
 


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