Drivetrain Cooper S exhaust special
Cooper S exhaust special
Rhythm Motorsports is having a group buy on the new Skunk2 exhaust system....they need atleast 12 people for this to go through...
if you are interested contact me via pm or post here...as soon as I see 12 I will call Rhythm after a 24hr notice...
the system LISTS for around $1200.00. This due to AC schnitzers $999.99 system. Skunk2 says the don't wanna saturate the market like the hondas and other ricers have...they value the Mini products...
NOW....since Rhythm are the only ones selling it at this point Skunk2 is letting them retail it for around $750.00 to keep it with in borla price range....during this group buy it is going for $640.00 with $35.00 shipping to anywhere.....
As for HP gains....like most you are looking at 10 hp....that's what all the Dyno pulls in Cali have shown thus far....heh heh...YAY!
thanks in advance for your interest I am real excited about this
I will post a sound clip as soon as I get one
if you are interested contact me via pm or post here...as soon as I see 12 I will call Rhythm after a 24hr notice...
the system LISTS for around $1200.00. This due to AC schnitzers $999.99 system. Skunk2 says the don't wanna saturate the market like the hondas and other ricers have...they value the Mini products...
NOW....since Rhythm are the only ones selling it at this point Skunk2 is letting them retail it for around $750.00 to keep it with in borla price range....during this group buy it is going for $640.00 with $35.00 shipping to anywhere.....
As for HP gains....like most you are looking at 10 hp....that's what all the Dyno pulls in Cali have shown thus far....heh heh...YAY!
thanks in advance for your interest I am real excited about this
I will post a sound clip as soon as I get one
Originally Posted by TwOMINIs
Is that a 2" diameter pipe?
Nice Gallery pics on your link :smile:
Nice Gallery pics on your link :smile:
AND THANKS FOR THE COMPLIMENTS!!!
Last edited by Tüls; Jun 26, 2004 at 10:05 AM.
Hi Tuls - welcome to NAM!
Not to squelch your excitement, but this sounds like a bunch of marketing hoo-hah to me. I've been looking at MCS exhausts over the past year trying to wait out the pricing insanity - no way any of these exhausts should be selling for over $600, let alone $999 or $1200. I also don't understand the comment about saturating the market.. The MINI market is so much smaller than the Honda/Acura market (which is apparently Skunk2's sweet spot) that I'm not sure they're in a position to saturate it. Especially at $1200
What does the pricing have to do with AC Schnitzer's price? Is this system made by AC Schnitzer?
I would say that the reason it's being sold for $640 + shipping is that is just about what the market will bear -- we've seen similar group buys on the Borla in the past, and they've been in that price range.
With the list of commonly known available MCS exhausts numbering in the 10-12 range, I'm quite certain that this one, although it is nice looking, will not be that significantly different than the others.
I still haven't purchased an exhaust - mostly because I haven't had much of a chance to see and listen to anything other than the Magnaflow (too loud, drone, wacky tips).
the system LISTS for around $1200.00. This due to AC schnitzers $999.99 system. Skunk2 says the don't wanna saturate the market like the hondas and other ricers have...they value the Mini products...
NOW....since Rhythm are the only ones selling it at this point Skunk2 is letting them retail it for around $750.00 to keep it with in borla price range....during this group buy it is going for $640.00 with $35.00 shipping to anywhere.....
Not to squelch your excitement, but this sounds like a bunch of marketing hoo-hah to me. I've been looking at MCS exhausts over the past year trying to wait out the pricing insanity - no way any of these exhausts should be selling for over $600, let alone $999 or $1200. I also don't understand the comment about saturating the market.. The MINI market is so much smaller than the Honda/Acura market (which is apparently Skunk2's sweet spot) that I'm not sure they're in a position to saturate it. Especially at $1200
What does the pricing have to do with AC Schnitzer's price? Is this system made by AC Schnitzer? I would say that the reason it's being sold for $640 + shipping is that is just about what the market will bear -- we've seen similar group buys on the Borla in the past, and they've been in that price range.
With the list of commonly known available MCS exhausts numbering in the 10-12 range, I'm quite certain that this one, although it is nice looking, will not be that significantly different than the others.
I still haven't purchased an exhaust - mostly because I haven't had much of a chance to see and listen to anything other than the Magnaflow (too loud, drone, wacky tips).
Originally Posted by Tuls
the system LISTS for around $1200.00. This due to AC schnitzers $999.99 system. Skunk2 says the don't wanna saturate the market like the hondas and other ricers have...they value the Mini products...
NOW....since Rhythm are the only ones selling it at this point Skunk2 is letting them retail it for around $750.00 to keep it with in borla price range....during this group buy it is going for $640.00 with $35.00 shipping to anywhere.....
Tuls,
Aloha and welcome to NAM.
Nice pics of the Skunk2 exhaust and in your gallery.
This exhaust looks like it would be similar to the Borla Race.
I'd expect performance similar to many of the other exhausts out there for the MCS until an independent dyno test shows otherwise.
It does look like the centerpipe tapers down a bit as it reaches the Y bend before the two mufflers.
The finish looks good. Not sure about the fitment and how it might hang.
What is the weight? Does it drone? For comparison in loudness-where does it fall compared to other MCS exhausts?
$35 shipping to anywhere? I doubt that they would eat the cost of shipping it to Hawaii where it usually costs us $100 for a double exhaust.
Aloha and welcome to NAM.
Nice pics of the Skunk2 exhaust and in your gallery.
This exhaust looks like it would be similar to the Borla Race.
I'd expect performance similar to many of the other exhausts out there for the MCS until an independent dyno test shows otherwise.
It does look like the centerpipe tapers down a bit as it reaches the Y bend before the two mufflers.
The finish looks good. Not sure about the fitment and how it might hang.
What is the weight? Does it drone? For comparison in loudness-where does it fall compared to other MCS exhausts?
$35 shipping to anywhere? I doubt that they would eat the cost of shipping it to Hawaii where it usually costs us $100 for a double exhaust.
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LOL thanks for the welcome and the replys....let's see if I can answer some of this or let you knwo what I cannot currently...
shipping is more for Hawaii you are right it will be about 50-60 + depending on the island
As for sounds clips...I'll get one asap...prolly monday
Dyno chart if available from the current pulls ....monday...lol
I am not new to the car tuning world and share all the same idea/concerns as you all I will not tolorate droning or an overly loud exhuast....so I guess that goes back to the sound clip on monday ...if possible
as for the BigBrownDog honeslty the profit that Rhythm makes is notta I know casue I know the owner...hence the reason I found out about this.....and as for Skunk2 selling at the price they are...you are absolutely right in that they are selling it for what the market will allow...and the reason they are comparing to AC Schnitzer is cause...well...I'll assume they hold thier product in the same reguard.....all in all I dunno
I do know that whatever the case...over the yrs I have always tried to get what I can for my cars at less than retail.....still, I've always been willing to spend a resonable amount for a quality product...
So for all of you who have questions that are not currently answered know that I will review it all on monday and do what I can to get the info....even if I have to drive out to cali and pic it up my self....heh heh
shipping is more for Hawaii you are right it will be about 50-60 + depending on the island
As for sounds clips...I'll get one asap...prolly monday
Dyno chart if available from the current pulls ....monday...lol
I am not new to the car tuning world and share all the same idea/concerns as you all I will not tolorate droning or an overly loud exhuast....so I guess that goes back to the sound clip on monday ...if possible
as for the BigBrownDog honeslty the profit that Rhythm makes is notta I know casue I know the owner...hence the reason I found out about this.....and as for Skunk2 selling at the price they are...you are absolutely right in that they are selling it for what the market will allow...and the reason they are comparing to AC Schnitzer is cause...well...I'll assume they hold thier product in the same reguard.....all in all I dunno
I do know that whatever the case...over the yrs I have always tried to get what I can for my cars at less than retail.....still, I've always been willing to spend a resonable amount for a quality product...
So for all of you who have questions that are not currently answered know that I will review it all on monday and do what I can to get the info....even if I have to drive out to cali and pic it up my self....heh heh
Last edited by Tüls; Jun 26, 2004 at 12:28 PM.
It sure looks like 2-1/2" tapered to 2" before the "Y". I highly doubt it will drone if that is the size...
I don't accually think it tapers I think it's the reflection of the floor and surrounding walls...
whatever the case I'll let you know on monday if we're all lucky...LOL
whatever the case I'll let you know on monday if we're all lucky...LOL
Ok...here's where we are at...there is a media cd being over nighted to me with the fmv of the dyno...so not only will we have the graph and see the mx HP but accually here and see the MCS on the dyno...
woo hoo!! also I will have the wieght then as well....talk to you all then...if they don't come through I am sorry...I am harrassing them as much as I can...LOL...
woo hoo!! also I will have the wieght then as well....talk to you all then...if they don't come through I am sorry...I am harrassing them as much as I can...LOL...
Will be installing Skunk2 exhaust soon!
I'm expecting delivery of my exhaust on Wed of this week! Hopefully will have it installed on thursday. I will take pictures of it on the lift for all to see the fit& finish and I'll let you know how it sounds. I may be able to provide some dyno numbers on july 10th too!
2002 DS/B Cooper S, AMD 1-click, Alta 15%, Madness intake
2002 DS/B Cooper S, AMD 1-click, Alta 15%, Madness intake
Alright guys...Rhythm didn't come through...so I accually talk to Skunk2 today...I am going to see if they will send that same CD to me...the one that "never" showed up at Rhythm...The Guy I spoke with was really helpful and said that suprisingly to him even the Exhaust is not louder than the borla...and makes a max 13 HP but a good solid 10...I am still waitng the Dyno charts etc etc...just htought I would give you guys an update....
look forward to seeing those results - thanks for bringing a new exhaust to our attention.
I will be honest though - i am a bit skeptical on those HP claims. Many a new manufacturer comes out bragging about high horsepower, and every time we have a member strap one on the dyno, it almost NEVER lives up to what its claimed too. I am impressed by conservative claims backed up by big numbers on the dyno.... I know this sounds odd, b/c who would buy products that claim so little - well, word gets out, believe me people know.
I will anxiously await a customer dyno sheet of this exhaust.
Cheers
-ABT-
I will be honest though - i am a bit skeptical on those HP claims. Many a new manufacturer comes out bragging about high horsepower, and every time we have a member strap one on the dyno, it almost NEVER lives up to what its claimed too. I am impressed by conservative claims backed up by big numbers on the dyno.... I know this sounds odd, b/c who would buy products that claim so little - well, word gets out, believe me people know.
I will anxiously await a customer dyno sheet of this exhaust.
Cheers
-ABT-
Originally Posted by Tuls
The Guy I spoke with was really helpful and said that suprisingly to him even the Exhaust is not louder than the borla...and makes a max 13 HP but a good solid 10...I am still waitng the Dyno charts etc etc...just htought I would give you guys an update....
) Also which Borla was the Skunk2 rep reffering to? Street or Race system? even a modest 7-9 hp gain and a solid 4-7 ft. lb. of torque would get me to go with this system at this price.
Last edited by discodan; Jul 4, 2004 at 09:41 AM.
OK guys here's the long awaited Dyno chart...as far as sound tests...if you all can wait a about a week I am going to just buy one and throw the car on the dyno and take some video so you guys can really here what it sounds like
if any of you are ready now lemme know...the price is unfortunetly going to change if we can't get 12....unless I can really work something....but I'll keep you guys in formed...I jsut want a damn good exhuast...the test one is going to run us up words of 700 but I think it's worth it if I can get you guys hooked up...
if any of you are ready now lemme know...the price is unfortunetly going to change if we can't get 12....unless I can really work something....but I'll keep you guys in formed...I jsut want a damn good exhuast...the test one is going to run us up words of 700 but I think it's worth it if I can get you guys hooked up...
Pretty.
Expensive.
Major bends before the 90 degree tip bend... just under 140 degrees or so?
And I won't even go into manufacturer produced dyno sheets, it's way too easy to tweak them with a simple temp/barometric pressure adjustment. Hopefully someone will do their own dynos to back up these claims.
Sorry so dubious, just based on all the exhaust testing out there to date there isn't more than 6 or so horsepower to be found that way. Happy to be proven wrong though.
Expensive.
Major bends before the 90 degree tip bend... just under 140 degrees or so?
And I won't even go into manufacturer produced dyno sheets, it's way too easy to tweak them with a simple temp/barometric pressure adjustment. Hopefully someone will do their own dynos to back up these claims.
Sorry so dubious, just based on all the exhaust testing out there to date there isn't more than 6 or so horsepower to be found that way. Happy to be proven wrong though.




