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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 07:33 PM
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R55 Dream Engine. What would you do?

I was enjoying my drive to work this morning in my beautiful 2010 Rally Clubman S, making a sweet pass on the freeway, when suddenly a giant cast iron electrical motor appears in my lane. I hit it at 80 mph and launched the car into flight. Cracked the nose, ripped off half the air dam, smashed the intercooler, broke the transmission housing, shattered the oil pan, ripped the exhaust from the engine, smashed the spare tire well up, and potentially cracked the engine block.......at which point the dealer says they will total the car. Even though it looks perfect otherwise.

I don't plan on letting them total the car, so I have a lot of engine and transmission work to do. I figure I have two options:
1) Buy a low mileage engine/trans at a premium and swap the whole thing.
2) Start cheap. Buy just the broken parts. Replace housings. Disasemble the engine. Build the dream.

So if you knew you were taking the engine/trans/exhaust/intercooler apart.......what would you put back in it?
 
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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 07:42 PM
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Oh no! Love the Rally Edition so glad you won't let them total it.

I'd love to put a low mileage or new N18 engine in it. If that's not possible then a low mileage N14 would probably be good too.

But I'd ultimately probably end up just having to fix the engine as it was.

I guess it'd all really depend on the size of the insurance check.

Either way, do everything you can to keep that beauty on the road!
 
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Old Nov 30, 2012 | 12:31 AM
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Bored, stroked, head, cams, pistons, rods, turbo, aftermarket ecu. Basically just put the engine components (driveline included) from a WRC mini in there.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2012 | 04:12 AM
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You really need to check if you had any body frame damage. If there is any at all, total the car out.

For the amount of stuff destroyed I would not want to replace it all. You're probably hovering around $20,000 and up for all the parts and labor to fix everything to like new condition. That is a totaled car in my opinion.

I think it's time to move on. If you want to stay with the MINI platform and build the ultimate street machine, buy a cheap used R53 and go gonzo on that. The R56 aftermarket platform is still young compared to the maturing and proven R53 when it comes to modding.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2012 | 04:31 AM
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Sounds like an exciting morning, Glad your OK!
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Old Nov 30, 2012 | 06:24 AM
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Find a fJCW motor/trans. It will be an upgrade and you won't have to take an engine apart
 
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Old Nov 30, 2012 | 08:54 AM
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Yes I agree with all of you. The car looks fine parked, but I couldn't get underneath to really inspect the chassis. Something didn't quite seem right after it landed. I Should have an answer today.

An N18 or JCW would be a great fast fix alternative.

But lets pretend I build one. Any recomendations on leader in Mini engine building? I haven't been able to find much for this generation engine from an aftermarket perspective.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2012 | 09:46 AM
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The leader in true high horsepower MINI engine builds is ABF Motoring in California. They pioneered the first 1000hp R53 and I've heard they've got the R56 up to 600whp. They are a very small operation but have the knowledge to do it.

I hope you have a mid-life crisis sized bank account to fund it. That much horsepower in a FWD car is just nonsense in my opinion. I can think of so many RWD cars that would blow the doors of the MINI with respect to handling prowess and power/torque for less than the amount of money you'll spend to repair everything to new condition and build a proper race motor.

OK enough bench racing
 

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Old Nov 30, 2012 | 10:58 AM
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total it.. start a new project
 
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Old Nov 30, 2012 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ducatiorourke
Yes I agree with all of you. The car looks fine parked, but I couldn't get underneath to really inspect the chassis. Something didn't quite seem right after it landed. I Should have an answer today.

An N18 or JCW would be a great fast fix alternative.

But lets pretend I build one. Any recomendations on leader in Mini engine building? I haven't been able to find much for this generation engine from an aftermarket perspective.
Jan at Revolution Motor Works near LA
 
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Old Nov 30, 2012 | 05:55 PM
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I know totalling it is the SMART decision. And I'm generally a smart guy, except when it comes to my toys. It would definately be the best looking "total" in the junk yard. But they only made 70. Gotta keep it. We have the technology.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 12:18 AM
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If money was no issue, I'd somehow put a S14 engine and supercharge it. I can dream you know :D
 
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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by MNIPWR

Jan at Revolution Motor Works near LA
+1.....1.8 stroker
 
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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 09:22 PM
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If I were to bore and stroke the engine, who makes parts for that?
 
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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 09:24 PM
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Its all custom, but the only person I know of who has ever stroked one is Jan. He will be able to do it all for you.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2012 | 11:10 AM
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If money was no issue, I'd somehow put a S14 engine and supercharge it. I can dream you know :D
S14? That'd be interesting! I'd say do a SR20DET and make it RWD.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2012 | 12:13 PM
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If we are just being dreamers, I would somehow put a VR38DETT twin-turbo (GT-R motor) in there with AWD.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2012 | 01:59 PM
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So here's my broken transmission, engine, exhaust, and intercooler.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2012 | 02:10 PM
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Dang.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2012 | 02:14 PM
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If no frame damage, restore it to better than new it's a limited edition. That alone should help you justify the expense . Sorry it's happened , now make the best of it. ( life's to short to drink stale beer ).
 
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Old Dec 12, 2012 | 02:21 PM
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Yes.......I agree. I would total it if it's wasn't a limited edition. Both body and frame are fine, only lost one piece of plastic. Already found a low mileage 6 speed with limited slip. Next will be a JCW short block direct from Mini to build up over the winter. Maybe I'll paint the engine green to match my mirrors.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2012 | 03:34 PM
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S14? That'd be interesting! I'd say do a SR20DET and make it RWD.
Nice choice as well Chris.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2012 | 06:06 PM
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Its a pretty neat looking car, do it the way that you want it. If you have time, see if you can find someone to port and polish the head while the car is down for a bit. The pictures look better than the initial description, I would have fixed it as well.

Mike
 
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Old Dec 15, 2012 | 04:32 AM
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No way that's a total. Just let the insurance handle it.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2012 | 07:15 AM
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I have always wondered how the engine, trans, and four wheel drive set up from a subaru wrx sti would be in a mini. Talk about rally edition! Probably a huge project. Way out of my reach. Just throwing it out there....
 
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