Hi all !

Looking for an intercooler for my R56, last upgrade of the year
Been seeing some on the website market however was never lucky enough(yet) to catch one.
Has anyone heard of this intercooler before ??

http://www.etektuning.com/wagner-tun...t-intercooler/

UK website with more pictures:
http://www.wagner-tuning.co.uk/mini-...ooler-90-p.asp


Cheers !

give your thoughts on others and if you know a good price somewhere,let me know

 

No pictures of the intercooler, just the front of the car, and 25 lbs? Seem too big to me and a MINI doesn't need anymore weight up front.

Love the Helix FMIC that I bought. If you catch the next group sale it is ~$600 US.
This GB is closed but it will give you what it is about:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...group-buy.html

 

Just added a second link with more pictures.
GB would be nice

 

For that price and weight go with the Forge intercooler we know they fit and work.

 

the dimension are the same, FORGE seems heavier a bit. Price is quite differernt. Unless you can get me a discounted price WayMotorWorks
Forge= $699
Wagner=$497

 

"You get what you pay for"
"Gotta pay to play"

You pm'd me this info and you're still not convinced on either Forge or Helix? Geez...

 

Iam looking at a Plan B ... as far I see on the website Wagner and Forge and very similar product, same shame, same dimension, price is therefore different. It is made in the UK and there are some on the US market.
Iam looking to see if any members have tried it yet ?
I know you gave me your opinion ra2fanatic, however the price of the Forge isnt the same as two months ago.
There is this discounted price for the US at $497, in the UK, this fMIC cost £499=700dollars ... this is why Iam looking at this right now.

 

GTECKO, you will always find vendorlubers. They go the safe method and spend more money. They'll never be for someone trying to find a better value solution, I mean, what if they find out that they spent $300 more on a FMIC and data proves it works exactly the same? They'd be devastated and call bs on the data.

Check out the "Chinese FMIC" thread... i just lol. 700hp evos and scoobies run ebay fmic's all day long without issue, but man they must be dumb for not paying twice as much for a name brand one that functions equally as well!

I say do more research before you give in.

Yes my sig says I have a helix, but I also paid half of new price...

 

You can't fix stupid - buy a 25K car and bet the health of the engine to save $200 bucks - lol

 

Before you go calling me stupid PLEASE explain how a $400 vs a $600 fmic can mess up your engine by running less efficiently.

That is an absolutely ridiculous statement. You have to be kidding me.

You must be the one to buy a $400 intake because a 90 degree silicone elbow and filter will kill your engine.

You think all the brand name fmics have cores made in the us? Lol. Inspect your end tanks for machining chips and or finish break edges and you'll be safe from liberations. You can even clean the internals if you want to be extra safe.

Please understand how a part works and functions before protesting that it'll blow up your motor.

 

Both the Wagner and Forge are cheaper copies of the Helix stepped core design, but lack all of the features including bull nosed bars (both on the face and in the tanks), high offset fin density, cast end tanks that have been flow tested and proven. There is a wealth of performance data on the Helix just a search key away, which is why the Helix Stepped Core Intercooler is the benchmark.

 

They all 3 cost the same price(expect Wagner has a deal now) all 3 have dimensions and design... Im sure if a Wagner vendor was affiliated to this forum they would talk highly of it.
Im only curious as I dont want to spend more than I could.
Forge had deals two month ago andnow its regular price...you cant hate to try to safe some dollars...
Anyone ever tried Wagner or has actual facts?

 

Check this link out you may find it interesting: http://www.minitorque.com/forum/f822...version-28584/

 

I had an eye on this thread for a bit. the thing is, in the UK, this FMIC is sold for 800bucks ... right now the website Ive linked in post one had a killer deal on it.
Iam sure it would not be a crap copy of a FORGE if it was sold in the UK by a Europen company ... just need one person to had try it lol

 

It honestly looks like a stock intercooler with a bigger unit welded on together with it.

 

Currently nobody in the UK has tried it, I have looked at it, and boy was it heavy, I guessed it's weight at 8Kg, and Wagner Tuning UK are confirming what I guessed, however your post link to etektuning, advertise a weight of 25.00lbs (11.33Kg) you have to ask with such weight, heavy thick cast end tanks, over engineered brackets, what thickness is the core bar/plate produced from ? heavy gauge material retains heat!

 

if I look at outmotoring.com HELIX weights 22.00 lbs
all about the same weight ... and they say HELIX is very good ...

 

And the Helix comes with cast end tanks too, adding additional unnecessary weight, when compared to a hand formed or pressed end tanks, cast end tanks by their very nature will be heavier and thicker whilst offering poor thermal dissipation properties.

 

Well, if you're already justifying the differences between the Wagner design and Helix/Forge, then you might as well get that and call it a day and close the thread. No use in convincing you to buy something that's proven quality over a product that few if not a single person here in NAM has.

Consider the resale value of it when you ever decide to sell your car. A non-reputable FMIC will fetch you $200 by the time you finally sell that piece compared to the $500+ range for the Helix/Forge. $.02

 

Thanks for you $.02 - much appreciated. I have not made up my mind and I opened this thread to get some answers on the Wagner, see if anyone had tried it and compare it to other FMIC if possible.
If I can sell a used the Wagner at $200 when I bought it for $450 ,,, I still think thats a good resale, that is my $0.02
Believe me Ra2Fanatic,and I told you that in PM, if I can get a better price on the FORGE, I AM IN ! However right now $700 is still a lot... Maybe wait on a GB.

 

So the first person to buy a helix fmic or any part for that matter must have been crazy...

Or... every mini modder should have gotten the unichip from the "reputable" vendor because so many people got it and saw proven power increases..... oh wait...

 

I agree. My Forge unit is superb.

 

hah, I never said Alta was "reputable". Helix has been a proven company way before the MINI even came around, just like AR Design is. I've followed these companies over the years so I've already done my research. You can decide what is cheap to buy and what not to, but I've already done my homework and don't need to second guess my decisions.

+1

 

I just wish that my early prod. forge unit had a mounting bracket to hold it to the crash bar

 

That's funny, cuz I cut mine off because I have a '10 and the crash bar was different design compared to '07-09.