How much cost a logger ?

 

Added 10 pages of tech info to Post #3: Ecu Tutorial 101 (Understanding the MINI's ECU and its general functions).

 

Wholy S#|T! Not to live up to my screen name here but!!!!!!!

Finaly after nearly 2 years! Its about time we get a hint of "SAFE" opperation peramiters! Hopefuy potental/coustomers are geting a hint. Maby now if a little more is shared between users we can figgure out how to do this without the $800 + TUNER fees + dyno time Equaling over 1000 bucks

 

Hi all,

I think I'm one of the first owners of FA. I think I'm the first outside USA? I really wanted to spare a minute to appreciate what the guys at bytetronik and mynes do, though it is not enough. The product is awesome, the support is wonderful, the power I'm getting from my car is amazing. All what is about mini and the miniport is just unbeleivable! I live in Saudi Arabia where no one really knows much about mini electrically or tuning wise. The best you can get is a good BMW/mini mechanic. I never imagined I would have my car tuned as much as I want and the way I want. To be honest, many other car owners envy me for this tool I have. The hot weather here is another issue. Our cars really need to be tuned to match our weather and our use. Many minis have a knocking issue due to small injectors, high temps and spirited driving!

Again, thumbsand hats up for this team. I consider myself a close friend as I was dealing with Mike before he announced the product. I know the background of the miniport and this is why I show more respect and appreciation.

My 2 cents: I'm blown away with the power, response and driveability I got out of my car after it was remotely tuned. My car used to be a head turner with all accessories on it. Now it is a performance head turner!

 

All of the technical info (curtesy of MINI Tech Info) posted here have been available to FA owners all along on our Tech Forum - they are just spread out in various threads.

For those who want to get in-depth info directly from BMW/MINI, please go to the source: http://www.minitechinfo.com/

 

Subscribing to this thread for interest. Any R50 owners use this product to tune yet? Impressions?

 

I know there are/where a few, I dont think any of them are on this forum though. I would really like to see what the stock mapping is like on an R50, something tells me the NA TriTec is capible of way over the 115 HP they come with in stock form.

 

Well, there was the briefly available JCW Tuning Kit for the R50... so it can certainly handle at least a little more!

 

FA Logs are now compatible with the Virtual Dyno Software. One can perform BEFORE and AFTER WOT Logs and see the delta without the need for a physical dyno (note, only one set of logs is graphed below):

 

I've used V/D with my F/A and it works pretty well, anyone who does this, just make sure your settings are correct and it's pretty accurate when used properly, but more so than that, if you use it as any dyno should really be used, as a tool to measure gains & losses while tunning, it's great!

 

+1 On this! VD really lets you know if you are really going in the right direction or not, and it's a quick easy and free way to check up on your power levels.

 

Come on guys, you can do better than show a graph of a car running a 12.5 AFR under 15psi of boost out the top end. Thats NOT the way a car should EVER be run! Likely if this car is left running like this it's going to have some major issues.

Have any screenshots of how everything SHOULD look in VD? I do... But will not post them due to the owner of the car.

 

Well, with FA Logging coupled with VD, we can see "problem" spot such as this. This log was chosen to demonstrate the usefulness of Logging and VD. Now we can go in and fix the exact RPM range to bring the AFR down. There are countless dyno graphs on here that shows how a dyno graph should look... no need for me to repost any of them here.

 

What using VD as a TOOL to make better use of your (ByteTroniK) TOOL... That's rediculas!

Not trying to be a *****, there are people who might be intrested and watching this who know nothing about AFR's though. Your AFR, KNOCK levels, and the amount of TIMING, is way more important than the HP and TQ numbers on the dyno graph.

Actually VD will prettymuch let you make the HP and TQ numbers say anything you want, with just one little change in the options menu your 190HP MINI could be a 400HP MINI on paper. The graphs are still the same, but the peak numbers are changeable if you choose to use the SW wrong.

 

I don't see anything ridiculous about this at all. We use DataViewer to better visualize the values of the FA Datalog, and use VD to see the delta of the changes... that sounds pretty smart to me.

So it's ridiculous for iPhone to run its own software while having thousands of Apps to perform other task? And the same hold true for Android phones too... do you find that "rediculas" also?

That's why we don't care about the HP reading on the graph and only the !!! If all the VD settings are kept the same, then it's an awesome tuning tool.

People who can read critically may find that you're being a pri*k and truly living up to your screen name... carry on...

 

Wow, you say something positive about VD and a few posts later it's negative. I see right through you and what you are trying to do, but that's okay . Why don't you go buy a Vipec already and stop trying to destroy this thread. The original poster already posted a lot of information that has never been posted for the MINI engine management before by ANYBODY!

You missed the whole point why the original poster posted the VD screenshot, why? Because of a agenda which you think is working.

We are tired of getting emails from current FA users and new potential users asking who you are on NAM and what's the problem you have. If it's such a big problem and VERY dangerous piece of software and hardware, I suggest you stop using it and sell it. And have the new customer you sold to contact Bytetronik to clear your VIN from the MINIPORT. You don't HAVE to use this product at ALL.

It would be nice to keep this on topic and follow the rules of this Forum and the main one is "RESPECT"

 

Whoa I make one joke and both of you blow up on me. Not sure how that one works?

VD is a great tool as I previously stated, as is bytetronik if you know how to use it.

I have no agenda as you say, and no Im not going to be using a ViPEC any time soon so i will continue to use bytetronik. Believe it or not there are people intrested in bytetronik and VD that have absolutely no clue how any of it works even with all of your posts.

 

That's the job of Bytetronik and not yours to do. Do you understand that? VD is from Brad Barnhill which is a dear friend of mine. He has stuff on his website how to use VD and support bug fixes if any. Bytetronik has a website with FAQ, manuals, videos, examples etc, and if a customer have a question in a email, they get support. So what I am saying, Bytetronik doesn't need you to advocate for Bytetronik. It's Bytetronik's product and you are user of it. Bytetronik knows their product best and can help their customers who ask questions about the product in use than you can ever do. So Bytetronik would appreciate you stop acting as a advocate for their product. Thanks

 

JCU - you should think carefully about the blankets statements you just made. Are you really saying that Bytetronik does not need its customers to advocate their products?

 

You Totally misunderstood what I am saying. I don't need a customer who doesn't know what they are doing in the first place advocating for us, that starts misinformation. I would rather a customer or new customer get information from Bytetronik or a trained dealer of Bytetronik directly if they have a question about Bytetronik products. He has posted several times of his experience in this thread. And when the original poster post new stuff, he shoots it down. Just looks suspicious to myself and emails from members who read this and write to us questioning this repeated comments.

Carry on

 

Guys, shape up the bs. Let's keep this productive and worthwhile. You're not out of line...yet. But this has the potential to turn into a very ugly (or perhaps just uglier) discussion.

Feel free to get heated, but let's keep it civil.