Drivetrain Meth/Alky/Water injection
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Meth/Alky/Water injection
Has anyone tried this yet? If it works with the car we should be able to safley be able to push the envelope a bit more. I'd be willing to bet that with a properly tuned meth setup you could run an advice map at around 275-285 whp range and show very little signs of stress the best part is, that the spray will act as a pressure washer and clean the inside of the cylinder head runner and injectors. Which means that the engine runs cleaner and inherently more efficient.
If you fix the dirt aspect of these engines you fix what breaks on these engines internally.
The only real problem I could see foresee would be injection timing and tuning.
Injection timing shouldnt be a problem, Just run the system only when the engine needs it. By running it with the power curve of the engine, you rule out interfering with the DI lean burn. We can do this with a simple boost sensor.
The only other real issue is figuring out how much to run. But thats nothing simple math can't fix :-)
If enough people show interest we can get someone like aqua mist or devils own to make us a plug and play kit for probably around 400 dollars.
And I know its a long shot but if enough of us buy this kit and own access port Alta can do a tune. Which means you wouldnt have to drive forever to a dyno. just hook up the juice and flash the tune. boom 280lbft.
If you fix the dirt aspect of these engines you fix what breaks on these engines internally.
The only real problem I could see foresee would be injection timing and tuning.
Injection timing shouldnt be a problem, Just run the system only when the engine needs it. By running it with the power curve of the engine, you rule out interfering with the DI lean burn. We can do this with a simple boost sensor.
The only other real issue is figuring out how much to run. But thats nothing simple math can't fix :-)
If enough people show interest we can get someone like aqua mist or devils own to make us a plug and play kit for probably around 400 dollars.
And I know its a long shot but if enough of us buy this kit and own access port Alta can do a tune. Which means you wouldnt have to drive forever to a dyno. just hook up the juice and flash the tune. boom 280lbft.
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Has anyone tried this yet? If it works with the car we should be able to safley be able to push the envelope a bit more. I'd be willing to bet that with a properly tuned meth setup you could run an advice map at around 275-285 whp range and show very little signs of stress the best part is, that the spray will act as a pressure washer and clean the inside of the cylinder head runner and injectors. Which means that the engine runs cleaner and inherently more efficient.
If you fix the dirt aspect of these engines you fix what breaks on these engines internally.
The only real problem I could see foresee would be injection timing and tuning.
Injection timing shouldnt be a problem, Just run the system only when the engine needs it. By running it with the power curve of the engine, you rule out interfering with the DI lean burn. We can do this with a simple boost sensor.
The only other real issue is figuring out how much to run. But thats nothing simple math can't fix :-)
If enough people show interest we can get someone like aqua mist or devils own to make us a plug and play kit for probably around 400 dollars.
And I know its a long shot but if enough of us buy this kit and own access port Alta can do a tune. Which means you wouldnt have to drive forever to a dyno. just hook up the juice and flash the tune. boom 280lbft.
If you fix the dirt aspect of these engines you fix what breaks on these engines internally.
The only real problem I could see foresee would be injection timing and tuning.
Injection timing shouldnt be a problem, Just run the system only when the engine needs it. By running it with the power curve of the engine, you rule out interfering with the DI lean burn. We can do this with a simple boost sensor.
The only other real issue is figuring out how much to run. But thats nothing simple math can't fix :-)
If enough people show interest we can get someone like aqua mist or devils own to make us a plug and play kit for probably around 400 dollars.
And I know its a long shot but if enough of us buy this kit and own access port Alta can do a tune. Which means you wouldnt have to drive forever to a dyno. just hook up the juice and flash the tune. boom 280lbft.
Aquamist already makes kits that are designed to work with our DI injector pulses. They really are the only way to go...do it right if you're going to do it at all. I wouldn't want to tie it to boost on this car. Boost is all over the place which makes tuning the meth kit difficult. However, even without a tune you should see good results, I have been told this ECU self-adjusts fueling for meth quite nicely.
Ideally you can spray into the turbo, pre-compressor and then spray more towards the intake manifold. I believe Czar is doing this and sees great results...so good that he even eliminated his intercooler
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im a bit hesitant to spray into the turbo. Im going to spary directly into the manifold. I did post the wrong kit though, the one im looking at uses the map sensor voltage to inject the proper amount. but im going to look at the one you posted. thanks for your help man.
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