Whoa, hold on there! Healthy skepticism is reasonable on a $3100 bolt on. The MINI landscape is littered with heads that don't produce, headers/exhaust that perform worse than stock, cams that do next to nothing, etc.

But don't confuse that with me and others not wanting this thing to work out for you--it gives everyone another option if this thing rocks, and I sincerely hope it works for your application. But until there is some track data, I'd be hard pressed to push this as a "track" kit--be a little irresponsible, don't you think? That runs dangerously close as "becoming fact without research..."

The data from across the pond should be interesting. I'm wagering it will shine on the dragstrip.

I'll continue to be an interested observer, but the more I read (in your post, which was very good in summarizing what happens at a given level of boost) and in other forums, this probably isn't the best application to go along with a BVH (although getting the two to work well and play together may not be entirely out of the question, but will require some tweaking at the least).

Anyway, until I get more info on how this may or may not work with a BVH, I'm out--and good luck, hope to see some good numbers from you when you get it running!

 

Its the normal newman cam, not sure about the race cam as I believe Jan is the only one who has access to that grind.

We have a Howerton Engineering system on the car, so we will re connect that at some point and start playing with that.

Thomas and Scott have been working on a couple of UK Pro Mods over the last couple of weeks to get them ready for this weekend.

One twin 91mm turbo Plymouth Superbird and one blown 53 Studebaker, they only fired up the Bird yesterday morning and just got to the track for the last qualifier.

http://www.eurodragster.com/santapod...ture=pic46.jpg

http://www.eurodragster.com/santapod...ture=pic53.jpg

 

Any updates on this? Who carries the kit? (in the US)

 

Well I havn't heard much more, most of the preorder's and 1st production units sold in the US have shiped out, and are in transit to their new homes now. I will probably be able to go pick mine up this week, if all goes well.

The only three places that I know to get one in the US is, MYNES (SoCAL), BoosTec (CO. Springs), and CUSTOM MINI SHOP (MIidCAL) there will be more distributers based off of intrest and demand but I can tell you one place that you WONT ever find one.

 

The podium? I keed, I keed..

 

Time will tell. It just might put the other guy's down a notch, NOBODY really knows yet.

 

Well so far the only super charged R-53s to make any podiums have been M-45 equipped

Randy
m7 Tuning

 

BINGO

We will have a proven supercharger out later this year that will be a bolt on to the stock s/c and will perform as it should EVEN on the race track

I have 10 of the water pumps on the shelf with controllers.......I'll make you a deal Who do you think gave them the idea???
I used them on our Rotrex street kits


some of us have actually tested it in a track setting and since we make parts that people put in their race cars that stand on the podium... Since it didn't pass my criteria for race parts......... WE WILL NEVER BE SELLING THEM............... btw.........where is your race data on the sprintex?

how many 15%+ pullied eaton's spin past redline ? answer for DICKS.......... ALL OF THEM....... and they sure don't have a 6month warranty either

as for the cam the 288 cam is for a COOPER
RMW is the ONLY company to have developed and WON A CHAMPIONSHIP and multiple podiums with true race cams for the R53

BINGO



that is incorrect as the Rotrex has posted the fastest times on every track we have run on. Even in shake down mode as the car is far from finished. Not to mention this is a daily driven street car that has just recently returned from the Dragon on a 5k mile run.........btw.... didn't see any sprintex cars driven across country
You will soon get to see the Rotrex at the UTCC at VIR and I'm confident it will do much better than the Sprintex did at the same track

 

Just wondering.....has anyone ever seen Rotrex complete S/C kit available for sale? Seems it has been out for a few years but no actual kits for sale. Think whatever kits that have been sold are one off's? Was told they are $6000.? Has anyone seen any data logging on a Rotrex? Would be nice to see both kits side by side I have seen the Sprintex kit, very clean and thought out.

 

^^^+1 to what he said!^^^
Why dont you post up some real data logs Jan, and maby an actual price, oh dont forget all the supporting stuff that needs done just for the SnailCharger?

 

Oh! Jan sells them? Do you know of any of his distributors?

 

Just him, he wont release kits to be sold elseware.

 

of course they are available for sale, there are numerous ones running around out there and more going out as we speak. Unlike others we sit down and qualify each and every client before we sell a kit............ you can't just order one without an extensive interview. There is no set pricing as most want custom setups. We have tailored them to each person's wants/needs. There is no 6mo warranty here either.......and we expect people to track them too

OUR S/C will make over 300whp too........

you want to see real world application.........just follow the link.........
that's something the sprintex will NEVER do............
no meth or water to air needed to do the unpossible............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlfY_gQfY9I

We are not looking for distributors but thanks anyways
ever wonder why Boostec was looking at how I fit a rotrex in a Mini at the dragon? He told Oscar Jackson it couldn't be done........roflmao......

Watch for him to try to replicate my kit

 

Still wondering why there were NO SPRINTEX cars at the dragon........would have been nice to see some durability testing.......it's reliable right?

RMW drove a stroker engine with big Rotrex kit 5,000 miles to show everyone how reliable it was. We went through a bunch of extra expense just to prove a point how reliable our parts are


seriously.........you can't be more decked out than my car , we drove through some of the worst weather in 100yrs from Little Rock to the Dragon

 

Why didn't you just ask Jay when he was there? Or is it just the public bashing you are looking for rather than an actual productive discussion. Keep this on topic please. I know you ask for the same in your threads.

Dicks, congrats on getting the kit. Can't wait to hear what you think about it.

 

why would I ask Jay when I tested the kit longer than they have?
We also tested it at the track where THEY haven't.............

 

Aren't the kit you test and this one very different?

"Sprintex production system vs rough prototype on Jan/Ian Florida car.
I can tell you that the initial test unit on Ians car was a very rough prototype. It was made from a pallet full of junk engine parts. The builder requested a car but RMW could not come up with one. There was a 30 day deadline involved and the understanding that if it worked RMW would place an order for production pieces. This first piece made 291whp. This is around 320hp at the crank. This was at 6500rpm. The tuner was unable to run the car past 6500rpm. we can only guess what the results would have been if more revs were possible. The results convinced Sprintex to develop a first class system. There are numerous cars now running with system and none have any issues. Up to 8000rpm. Sprintex invested more than $250,000 to bring this to market. It shows. By the way Jan paid $3000 for the first piece and $4400 for a intercooled second piece. Sprintex refunded all his money as they were unable to see a future with tuner of his status. BoostecUS distributes the units in the states and has sold out the first order of 15 systems and is awaiting the next shipment. Before any opinion is rendered facts are always nice to have. Little old for a fanboy aren't you? Old 66"

Link to thread

I found this relevant being you keep bringing up "your" kit in comparison.

Look, you ask for patience from your customers when 'developing' something on a customers car. Sometime it takes years. Let this play out to who it concerns and go back to your own testing. No one here said you cant buy another kit and try it again. Maybe you can be the track tester, being I dont see anyone putting 20K into a car with a Sprintex anytime soon to just take it around the track. This kit, for now, is for those who want something in the 3K range. I'm sure it will be on the track soon, have some patience.

 

believe me...........you don't want me to post up emails of the back and forth and who was telling the truth......... I keep everything for a reason

there are many people involved in the early testing of the sprintex that don't post here that you don't know about. One of those people spent many hrs on the phone with Jay Upton at Sprintex. You would also like to know I have sat down with Jay Upton and Steve at Sprintex over dinner. I know them personally. I will say it again, those two guys were at least honorable in their word. Unlike Boostec who lied repeatedly and continues to this day. The stuff he was saying at the Dragon is pure BS. I was the one who wanted out of the Sprintex deal.... NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND

 

Thats fine, start another thread on the topic please. Lets get back to this kit and its potential.

 

on topic for discussion..............

I did some converting of Celcius to Farenheit for the masses for easier understanding of what THEIR logs show on page 2............

16psi pulley
25.48 C= 77.86 F STARTING INLET TEMPS
46.48 C = 115 F[B]ENDING INLET TEMPS
Starting water temps for engine 172 F

Boost max was 16.09 @ 5763 rpms
Boost 14.5psi @ 7560 rpms
LOSS OF 1.59psi of boost

19psi pulley
20.98 C =69.76 F INLET STARTING TEMP
42.73 C = 108.91 F ENDING INLET TEMPS
Engine starting temp was 158 F!!!!!!

Boost Max was 19.40psi @ 5696 rpms
Boost 17.14 psi @ 7535 rpms
LOSS OF 2.26psi

so for some that still need help figuring out what this all means:
here is the skinny

the engines were NOT up to operating temps and neither was the Sprintex when these runs were done. Who here drives around at 158 F water temps?
How can a 19psi run be cooler than a 16psi run?
we all know pressure creates heat........ at least it does in the world I live in.
You can also see the pressure is dropping off up top already.
How will this perform as you actually heat up the blower even more?
What happens when your inlet temps BEFORE the blower are HOTTER than what they showed? (does it rise linear or exponential?)
What will happen after some serious miles put on the supercharger? ( these are brand new chargers..........)

If you also look at their own data....... ( I have nothing to do with it.... it's THEIR data) you will notice the thumper head made 16whp and zero torque and that was with his ported intake manifold

 

Thanks for putting things in perspective. How does their data compared to your test data on the prototype kit with ur test? How many psi were you running?

 

The KEY word here being PODIUM . Putting on slicks after the event is over to get a decent time does not constitute a PODIUM finish. You know what those are you stood on one a couple of years ago or so you said .

Randy
M7 Tuning

 

where are you located?

We have quite a few kits out there now, I would like to have them or even myself you give you a ride in a Rotrex car or even our new supercharger as we tour the US. That way you can see for yourself first hand

 

you do realize even with 4 ribs on the belt, worn tires and the car still not set up we took second......that in itself is a PODIUM....of course if you actually raced a car at an event you would know this....

Randy, everyone with any skills at all can do a search in NASA and see the wins and the championship........ of course doing such would invalid 99% of your posting towards me..........

 

I did go back a couple of years and found some NASA info but that was not with the rotrex , correct ? I did not see anything for 2010 or this year however . I only said that I thought that the only SC equipped r-53 podiums at a recognized event were done with M45 Eatons .

Randy
m7 Tuning