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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 05:07 AM
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Installing alta CAI

I recently purchased alta intake online and i read the manual online. I quite dont get the purpose of last step. Why do u need to remove hood scoop for?can someone explain for me??
 
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 06:35 AM
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You don't have to if you don't want to. I didn't bother it was just to much work for something I didn't find necessary. Plus I want the added protection.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 06:51 AM
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Pulling the grill out of the hood scoop lets more cool air flow into the engine compartment and gets more fresh air to the intake. Living in Oregon I was hesitant to take mine off (It rains every day) but after my hood scoop warped and the dealer forgot to put it in (unbeknownst to me) I didn't notice tidal waves of water OR mud pies sitting on the valve cover.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 07:02 AM
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Have you felt the heat coming off of your engine? The air ain't exactly "cold".

The effect these have has more to do with the additional volume of air it allows in moreso than the temperature.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Xeraux
Have you felt the heat coming off of your engine? The air ain't exactly "cold".

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Exactly the reason to open the scoop and let some cooler air in!! A few members here have done the scoop screen delete and have logged temps at the airbox noticeably cooler than with it in. Of course sitting at a stoplight will let heat radiate up off the engine....but start motoring and its a different story
 
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 08:08 AM
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Thank you all you guys answered my question. I just found it too hard to pull out the scoop :/ im not skilled with installing engine parts but im going to try this one on my own. Do u guys have any important tips for me while installing ALTA CAI ? Other info. than those on the manual?
 
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 08:11 AM
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Install is very simple, take your time. If you do have questions PM or call me! 503-693-1702.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 08:20 AM
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I cant thank you enough Jarid. The intake will be delivered on friday and i will definitely give you a call if im stuck. I hope i wont have to call you though..haha Anyhow have a nice day!
 
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 09:07 AM
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I must say, for you guys in the states running 55-65 mph, the scoop may add some benifit but.. I do alot of high speed driving (autobahn)and tried with both configurations when I was running my Alta CAI and found that there was no increased benefit of the open scoop on my car at high speeds (where I thought it would add the most) The nasty stuff under the hood was not worth running it open for me (lots of nasty stuff) and back in when the stock scoop grill.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 10:37 AM
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the scoop is super easy to get out of the car, its the easiest part of the alta cai install.

what you do is take off the rubber grommet on the underside of the hood, use a torx take that out, and then close the hood and pull up on the scoop. it makes a few pops and comes out, then there are 4 philips screws on the scoop and you are done. snap it back in without the mesh part in, tighten the torx and your good to go.

it literally takes less time than the amount of time it took me to respond to this post.

here in florida i found that it really helps me with under hood temperatures and its definitely worth the effort.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 01:17 PM
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Instead of removign the grill all together why not just dremil out the honeycomb?
 
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by gmodder
And nobody had said the stock filter gives better preformance the Alta...I know ive gone back to stock after loosing noticable torque decrease with the alta...
If you don't have dyno charts to back this, I would back down. You are going to tick off a lot of people who believe in Alta and know their parts are great, like myself. And also the people who can't stand people who mouth off and can't spell and write a respectable sentence.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 06:31 PM
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I also enjoy my Alta CAI. I like the sound as much as the cold air effect. I however, have an r53.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 10:51 AM
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I had a Toyota before my Mini. A 93 Celica ST to be precise. I loved it too.
Oh and my car feels better with the stock box back on as well. The Alta did sound nice though.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by gmodder
I know ive gone back to stock after loosing noticable torque decrease with the alta...
Most people would be happy with "losing a decrease."


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Dude where have you been under a rock or something?? Its already been confirmed....Maybe you need to search the forum before you MOUTH OFF..

Then you need to show before and after dynos. You wanna make claims like that you need to back it up. Saying "search" does not cut it. You have the burden of proof.


Come in here making bold claims, you'd better be ready to put up or shut up - whether you are right or wrong.
 

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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by david in germany
Oh and my car feels better with the stock box back on as well.
Don't mean to hijack the OP's thread, but I agree that going back to stock box (with a K&N) does seem to make the car run better (with or without the sport on). This probably could be a simple fix with a proper tune (RMW or Alta) with an aftermarket CAI I do miss the sound though...
 
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by gmodder
And nobody had said the stock filter gives better preformance the Alta...I know ive gone back to stock after loosing noticable torque decrease with the alta...
Originally Posted by gmodder
Dude where have you been under a rock or something?? Its already been confirmed....Maybe you need to search the forum before you MOUTH OFF..

Oh and let me guess. You had a Toyota before you had a Mini...LOL
Originally Posted by david in germany
I had a Toyota before my Mini. A 93 Celica ST to be precise. I loved it too.
Oh and my car feels better with the stock box back on as well. The Alta did sound nice though.
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Don't mean to hijack the OP's thread, but I agree that going back to stock box (with a K&N) does seem to make the car run better (with or without the sport on). This probably could be a simple fix with a proper tune (RMW or Alta) with an aftermarket CAI I do miss the sound though...
Hey folks,

Just popping in to reiterate THE INTAKE MAKES POWER IN ALL CASES!!

We dyno test, over and over and on separate cars to verify. This includes hood shut on the dyno. So no funny business!

IF a client feels that he has a power loss with any ALTA product, GIVE US A CALL, email or PM. Lets discuss the situation and find a remedy. More likely an installation concern has created the problem.

So if you have one, put it back on! The dyno just doesn't lie!

Thanks folks!

Adam @ ALTA Performance
 
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 02:15 PM
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I think what people are noticing is a change in the torque curve, and people are not feeling that huge pull at 1700rpm anymore.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 02:16 PM
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Quite an interesting thread. I think i will try to remove my scoop grill on my OEM intake (don't care of people thing Alta is better or worse...not what this thread is about). I know when I park tons of heat comes out of there so it could help pull cool air in while moving and let heat out while sitting.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 02:18 PM
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Mine is removed, and I am using the stock intake right now.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 03:19 PM
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For those that haven't seen it. The photo above is stock MINI R56 before and after.

Adam @ ALTA Performance
 
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by gmodder
And another response from the peanut gallery...


There have been no dyno's posted that show a power loss with the intake you are trying to slam yet there are several showing improvement. Butt dyno's do not count.

Notice how the thread you started about stock vs alta fizzled and died?

When you can show hard data we may listen to you. Until then you're just another newbie with an attitude.
 

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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 07:25 AM
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I don't think we meant to offend. All we are saying that the human mind is not a good way to test 10HP of the Alta CAI. If you really want to say that teh stock intake is better than you are going to have to put up some scientific measurements. 1 car two intakes.

If you just like the way the stock intake works/sounds/feels then so be it. It is your choice how to you'ify the your Mini!
 
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 07:42 AM
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Question about the scoop grill. Mine has about 30% of the honeycomb patern open. Is that enough, or should i take it out and start dremeling.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyinace2000
Question about the scoop grill. Mine has about 30% of the honeycomb patern open. Is that enough, or should i take it out and start dremeling.
Thanks for asking. I would recommend doing that Dremel-in. It will look nice, and will improve airflow through the scoop.

Thanks again!
 
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