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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 08:30 AM
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But that's without Jan's tune, right?


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We'll get the sheets scanned shortly, but here's exactly how the numbers broke down...

Peak HP was 213.8 @ 5682 RPMs. At that RPM torque was 197.6 and the AFR was 12.61...

Peak torque was 225.9 @ 2733 RPMS. At that RPM HP was 117.6 and the AFR was 14.24...

We have some videos of the run too and will try to get those loaded. The car sounds great, but the dyno rollers definitely drown it out sometimes...
 
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Originally Posted by orangecrush
But that's without Jan's tune, right?


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Correct..."tuneless"...
 
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 12:19 PM
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post mods/pre-tune dyno graphs POSTED!

Here's the dyno showing 225.9 ft/lbs of peak torque:



...and the dyno showing 213.8 peak HP:



Kind of interesting that the peak torque dyno also had the lowest HP reading (202.8 HP) of all the pulls done (and this one was the first). Again, this is post-mods and pre-tune, so there should be s'more HP and torque coming. Stay tuned...pun intended!
 
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 12:54 PM
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a DynoMite dyno eh, I wonder how that compares with more common dynos ?
I'm sure the tune will make a huge difference, but I'd like to see it done on a dynapack.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 03:32 PM
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I agree with orangecrush, you should definitely get an IC.

Forge or helix.

Also, apparently RMW tunes on JCWs don't yield massive dyno gains, but you can tell from orangecrush's posts that the difference is massive
 
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 04:30 PM
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he does have a Helix IC.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by J_'09s
he does have a Helix IC.
Correct! Thank you...all (engine) mods are listed in post #1...I didn't want to keep repeating them...
 
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Originally Posted by n1tr0
a DynoMite dyno eh, I wonder how that compares with more common dynos ?
I'm sure the tune will make a huge difference, but I'd like to see it done on a dynapack.
Here's the 411 on the dyno: http://www.ondemandperformance.com/equipment.php
It's not a DynoMite (that's the data acquisition computer) it's a Land and Sea chassis dynamometer.

They read more "realistic" like a Mustang dyno as opposed to some of the more "optimistic" dynos out there, like a Dynojet. No matter, that's why I use the same dyno for ALL of our vehicles; I don't care what it runs anywhere else, I want a consistent baseline so I know what I'm getting...or not getting from the mods...
 

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Originally Posted by MBW Motorsports
Here's the 411 on the dyno: http://www.ondemandperformance.com/equipment.php
It's not a DynoMite (that's the data acquisition computer) it's a Land and Sea chassis dynamometer.

They read more "realistic" like a Mustang dyno as opposed to some of the more "optimistic" dynos out there, like a Dynojet. No matter, that's why I use the same dyno for ALL of our vehicles; I don't care what it runs anywhere else, I want a consistent baseline so I know what I'm getting...or not getting from the mods...
do you have a single dyno run with both those output numbers and an overlay with your baseline runs ? I'm seeing 1 run w/ your best torque and another run with your best peak hp and no baselines.
Not trying to give you a hard time, but it's hard to gauge.
 
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Originally Posted by n1tr0
do you have a single dyno run with both those output numbers and an overlay with your baseline runs ? I'm seeing 1 run w/ your best torque and another run with your best peak hp and no baselines.
Not trying to give you a hard time, but it's hard to gauge.
Not at all...I'd like to see that too...I'll ask the dyno operator to do that fer me and I'll post it up. It's definitely nice to see the improvement (or lack thereof) throughout the curve, not just peak. He just printed these up and we took off; I definitely don't like keep someone late when they're doing me a favor, especially on a Friday night! It didn't help that one of the straps got boogered up either and had to be cut off with a torch...d'oh!
 
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by J_'09s
he does have a Helix IC.
my bad
 
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