Drivetrain I abso-FREAKN'-lutely love my new DoS intake!!!
I was wondering if anyone that changed the bulkhead along with the DoS CAI can tell me if it was a simple process? Another question is can this really give any problems at the dealer in terms of warranty?
I have not had any problems with my dealer, but I live in Dallas and have a wonderful dealer.
Interesting terminology.
Thanks for you business.
-Clint
Just ordered mine yesterday, can't wait to get it! I've got just a bit over 2k on mine and while worried about warranty work I can't imagine that I'm going to have trouble. Couple questions though:
1. Should I check with my dealer first before installing, just to make sure? (thinking they have a secret book where they write down inquiries for later service avoidance tactics!)
2. How hard is it to put in the pre-cut bulkhead panel or remove if I do have to go in for warranty work?
3. Love the look of the (M7?) turbo heat shields, but wonder if it's worth the $200 when I'm installing the DoS CAI anyway?
Thanks!
1. Should I check with my dealer first before installing, just to make sure? (thinking they have a secret book where they write down inquiries for later service avoidance tactics!)
2. How hard is it to put in the pre-cut bulkhead panel or remove if I do have to go in for warranty work?
3. Love the look of the (M7?) turbo heat shields, but wonder if it's worth the $200 when I'm installing the DoS CAI anyway?
Thanks!
The turbo heat shield (M7 or any other) has little to do with your choice of CAI. An early problem with the GEN2 MINIs was that excessive turbo heat was warping/melting the largely non-functional hood scoop. MINI has apparently fixed this in builds starting in March 2010 by using a "metalized" scoop. If you have an earlier build, you might consider getting a heat shield installed. Other options include:
1. Opening up more holes in the honeycomb hood scoop support (look inside your scoop and you'll see what I mean). Some have used a Dremel tool to do this.
2. Installing an aftermarket scoop that is larger (M7 has one I believe)
3. Trading in your S for a Justa...
Note that many S/JCW owners have NOT had a scoop warping/melting issue, but it's hard to gauge how prevalent it is. MINI formally addressed the issue, so it must have been pretty widespread.
1. Opening up more holes in the honeycomb hood scoop support (look inside your scoop and you'll see what I mean). Some have used a Dremel tool to do this.
2. Installing an aftermarket scoop that is larger (M7 has one I believe)
3. Trading in your S for a Justa...
Note that many S/JCW owners have NOT had a scoop warping/melting issue, but it's hard to gauge how prevalent it is. MINI formally addressed the issue, so it must have been pretty widespread.
Just ordered mine yesterday, can't wait to get it! I've got just a bit over 2k on mine and while worried about warranty work I can't imagine that I'm going to have trouble. Couple questions though:
1. Should I check with my dealer first before installing, just to make sure? (thinking they have a secret book where they write down inquiries for later service avoidance tactics!)
2. How hard is it to put in the pre-cut bulkhead panel or remove if I do have to go in for warranty work?
3. Love the look of the (M7?) turbo heat shields, but wonder if it's worth the $200 when I'm installing the DoS CAI anyway?
Thanks!
1. Should I check with my dealer first before installing, just to make sure? (thinking they have a secret book where they write down inquiries for later service avoidance tactics!)
2. How hard is it to put in the pre-cut bulkhead panel or remove if I do have to go in for warranty work?
3. Love the look of the (M7?) turbo heat shields, but wonder if it's worth the $200 when I'm installing the DoS CAI anyway?
Thanks!
From my perspective, its my car I will do with it what I want. If my mods affect some component failure during the warranty then the dealer/MINI will need to show that the mod caused the failure.
I have had my car in for warranty work at the dealer a few times. They do not give me grief about the mods being in my car.
The turbo heat shield (M7 or any other) has little to do with your choice of CAI. An early problem with the GEN2 MINIs was that excessive turbo heat was warping/melting the largely non-functional hood scoop. MINI has apparently fixed this in builds starting in March 2010 by using a "metalized" scoop. If you have an earlier build, you might consider getting a heat shield installed. Other options include:
1. Opening up more holes in the honeycomb hood scoop support (look inside your scoop and you'll see what I mean). Some have used a Dremel tool to do this.
2. Installing an aftermarket scoop that is larger (M7 has one I believe)
3. Trading in your S for a Justa...
Note that many S/JCW owners have NOT had a scoop warping/melting issue, but it's hard to gauge how prevalent it is. MINI formally addressed the issue, so it must have been pretty widespread.
1. Opening up more holes in the honeycomb hood scoop support (look inside your scoop and you'll see what I mean). Some have used a Dremel tool to do this.
2. Installing an aftermarket scoop that is larger (M7 has one I believe)
3. Trading in your S for a Justa...
Note that many S/JCW owners have NOT had a scoop warping/melting issue, but it's hard to gauge how prevalent it is. MINI formally addressed the issue, so it must have been pretty widespread.
OMG! Just got the CAI in and it already looked so good!!
Ran down with the tools and started installing, very easy simple install (thanks to the manual as well) and after 30 - 45 minutes it was on...
Started the car, and it sound soooo sweet!! I highly suggest the one's who don't own one order it!!
Thanks Clint, amazing product!!
Ran down with the tools and started installing, very easy simple install (thanks to the manual as well) and after 30 - 45 minutes it was on...
Started the car, and it sound soooo sweet!! I highly suggest the one's who don't own one order it!!
Thanks Clint, amazing product!!
Happened by the Mini Owner's site and here's what they have to say about air intakes:
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Many people on motoring forums claim that the stock air intake is restrictive and that changing to an open conical air filter will increase power, torque, and fuel economy. Is this true, and if the intake is changed, will it affect the warranty?
- Lee S
Aftermarket modifications are plentiful on MINIs. However, they affect the emissions calibrations of the vehicle and therefore, may void the factory warranty. Open conical filters may create extra power on the dyno, but in the real world, can draw hot air from under the hood, which hurts performance and could trigger your check engine light. The factory airbox assembly draws cool dense air from the outside at all times, which makes for more repeatable and consistent power. While it may not make all the cool underhood sounds, at least your warranty will not be affected. We do not recommend anything other than official MINI accessories. Luckily, we offer high flow induction systems engineered for both the Cooper and Cooper S that do not affect your warranty. Just check with your dealer for more information.
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Many people on motoring forums claim that the stock air intake is restrictive and that changing to an open conical air filter will increase power, torque, and fuel economy. Is this true, and if the intake is changed, will it affect the warranty?
- Lee S
Aftermarket modifications are plentiful on MINIs. However, they affect the emissions calibrations of the vehicle and therefore, may void the factory warranty. Open conical filters may create extra power on the dyno, but in the real world, can draw hot air from under the hood, which hurts performance and could trigger your check engine light. The factory airbox assembly draws cool dense air from the outside at all times, which makes for more repeatable and consistent power. While it may not make all the cool underhood sounds, at least your warranty will not be affected. We do not recommend anything other than official MINI accessories. Luckily, we offer high flow induction systems engineered for both the Cooper and Cooper S that do not affect your warranty. Just check with your dealer for more information.
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Yea, the heat shield was munged into the post 'cause of the pics of others I saw while researching. I know it's not a determining factor but got curious after thinking about it a bit. Thanks for the info on recent relief of the scoop melting though, hope my '10 doesn't have that problem...
I've seen LOTS of melty scoops on '07 to '09 MCS's. I really hope that this metallized scoop does the trick.
where do you put it?
Yup, the catch can has nothing to do with the CAI, but it's an affordable piece of insurance for direct injection engines. It aids in preventing carbon buildup on the valves by snagging water vapor and oil blowby vapor in the catch can.
BSH makes a great catch can, but there are others available.
Seafoam has been a popular option for this carbon buildup issue, but it is not rated as sensor safe. I would not use it. Chad at Detroit Tuned located a sensor-safe treatment called BG 44K that has the same benfits of Seafoam w/o the sensor issues. These treatments remove any vapor or spent oil (carbon) that makes it past the can and gets deposited on the valves.
You can check out more about this on episode #330 of White Roof Radio.
BSH makes a great catch can, but there are others available.
Seafoam has been a popular option for this carbon buildup issue, but it is not rated as sensor safe. I would not use it. Chad at Detroit Tuned located a sensor-safe treatment called BG 44K that has the same benfits of Seafoam w/o the sensor issues. These treatments remove any vapor or spent oil (carbon) that makes it past the can and gets deposited on the valves.
You can check out more about this on episode #330 of White Roof Radio.
Thanks!
How often do you guys check the fittings between the intake and the tubes? I'm not sure how much to tighten the clamps - this is the first car mod I've ever done - and I'm wondering how much movement there really is on the tubes and if I need to worry about the fittings slipping off.
I'm mostly worried about the bottom tube as I can't really see it and I'm mostly gauging how snug it is by touch.
Other than that, the intake is pretty awesome. Installed the intake the day after I picked up my car from the lot. It feels like my car is alive when I hear the turbo sucking in air and letting it out through the recirc valve. My GF, not knowing I installed the intake, but knowing I was working on my car, thought I did some weird mod to make it sound like Darth Vader breathing because I'm a Star Wars fan.
I've also noticed the IA Temp hovering closer to ambient temp, which is already really high in Hawaii(75-85F). Now I'm wondering if anyone else in Hawaii has this intake.
I'm mostly worried about the bottom tube as I can't really see it and I'm mostly gauging how snug it is by touch.
Other than that, the intake is pretty awesome. Installed the intake the day after I picked up my car from the lot. It feels like my car is alive when I hear the turbo sucking in air and letting it out through the recirc valve. My GF, not knowing I installed the intake, but knowing I was working on my car, thought I did some weird mod to make it sound like Darth Vader breathing because I'm a Star Wars fan.
I've also noticed the IA Temp hovering closer to ambient temp, which is already really high in Hawaii(75-85F). Now I'm wondering if anyone else in Hawaii has this intake.
How often do you guys check the fittings between the intake and the tubes? I'm not sure how much to tighten the clamps - this is the first car mod I've ever done - and I'm wondering how much movement there really is on the tubes and if I need to worry about the fittings slipping off.
I'm mostly worried about the bottom tube as I can't really see it and I'm mostly gauging how snug it is by touch. . .
I'm mostly worried about the bottom tube as I can't really see it and I'm mostly gauging how snug it is by touch. . .
Glad to hear that you're enjoying the product. Thanks again for your business.
-Clint



