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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 07:34 AM
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It does sound like you have a race kit installed, as you can tell, this is why we offer both options

In any case, we can sell the bushing kit separate so you can have both. Send Sushil an email and he will be able to help you out. His email is sushil@bshspeedshop.com

Thank you for the review! I think it will help anyone who is making a decision between street or race better able to make the call.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 12:02 PM
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My stock lower bushing developed a crack so at AMVIV, Way Motorworks installed a BSH lower mount. The first thing I noticed was greatly increased noise and vibration even as soon as I started the motor.
Curious, do you still have the original OEM upper motor mount?

I've heard that sometimes replacing only one mount can cause additional NVH because it shifts all the vibration to the weaker mount...
 
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 05:11 PM
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How come the MINI Madness bushings have two types, round and triangular? They say that you have to buy the right mount depending on the OEM bushings. Is the BSH mount universal no matter what the OEM bushings are?
 
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by beken
My stock lower bushing developed a crack so at AMVIV, Way Motorworks installed a BSH lower mount. The first thing I noticed was greatly increased noise and vibration even as soon as I started the motor. I thought I would run the car awhile to see if it softened up any. I am still on my extended trip home so am not home yet. But I suspect the race version has been installed on my car. It is a bit too noisy for my liking. If there is an easy and inexpensive way to try out the street version to see if I like it, I would. Or I might consider going back to the a stock mount and take this as a $120 lesson learned.

HOWEVER,,,,after driving my car very long distances for a week, I do notice improvement in the cars handling in that when cornering hard at speed, my front wheels appear to stay better planted on acceleration. I guess that is what is meant by less wheel hop. The BSH lower mount does work to improve performance in this way.
I am glad to hear that you are enjoying the added performance from our mount. Give a call into the shop or drop me an email and we can check to make sure you have the right product!

Originally Posted by Neufusion
Curious, do you still have the original OEM upper motor mount?

I've heard that sometimes replacing only one mount can cause additional NVH because it shifts all the vibration to the weaker mount...
This could be the case as well with the addt'l vibration. It maybe the cause of other failing motor mounts.

beken, I would check your passenger motor mount, as well as your transmission mount. If your stock lower motor mount failed, it may have already caused damage to your other mounts. Unfortunately it is difficult to know the condition of your passenger motor mount until it begins leaking oil.

Originally Posted by R56 Wi MINI
How come the MINI Madness bushings have two types, round and triangular? They say that you have to buy the right mount depending on the OEM bushings. Is the BSH mount universal no matter what the OEM bushings are?
The BSH Mount is universal because it is a replacement to the OEM mount. Although on the R56 the shape of the OEM mount changed, the mounting locations did not, therefore you can use the BSH R56 Lower Motor Mount whether you have a round, or triangle OEM lower motor mount.
 

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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 08:11 PM
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I just want to chime in here to say that the BSH lower engine mount has to be the most under-rated MINI mod. I've spent countless hours on MINI forums and I don't remember hearing about it until I had one installed on my 2004 R53 at AMVIV, and it had an incredible effect on my car!

First, obviously it stabilizes the engine, so the power delivery is smoother and I think shifting is, too. More than that, though, is the way it transforms the attitude of the car in the cockpit. When I first drove off, I thought my car had something wrong with it - where was all this noise and vibration coming from? Why did the engine sound like it was sitting in the passenger seat?

After 500 miles or so, the mount had broken in and I am left with a nice vibration at idle ("...a warm vibraty feeling all through me guttiworks...") and just a lovely feeling of being connected to my car. The noise transfered through the mount to the rest of car makes everything feel sportier and more fun, like the car has come to life and is no longer being chained down to make sure it didn't offend people on test drives. Basically, I heartily recommend adding the lower mount to your list of mods because it makes a MINI more, uh, MINI-er!

(Let me add that I have a stock exhaust and intake. If you've got those noisemakers on your car already, the lower mount may not be as transformative. You should get one anyway.)
 
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Old Apr 7, 2010 | 09:11 AM
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Do you have the street or race version installed?
 
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Old Apr 7, 2010 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by broadwayline
Do you have the street or race version installed?
Mine is the street version.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2010 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Sales@BSH
I am glad to hear that you are enjoying the added performance from our mount. Give a call into the shop or drop me an email and we can check to make sure you have the right product!



This could be the case as well with the addt'l vibration. It maybe the cause of other failing motor mounts.

beken, I would check your passenger motor mount, as well as your transmission mount. If your stock lower motor mount failed, it may have already caused damage to your other mounts. Unfortunately it is difficult to know the condition of your passenger motor mount until it begins leaking oil.



The BSH Mount is universal because it is a replacement to the OEM mount. Although on the R56 the shape of the OEM mount changed, the mounting locations did not, therefore you can use the BSH R56 Lower Motor Mount whether you have a round, or triangle OEM lower motor mount.
Sorry....having just gotten home and back to work, it's been rather busy so I haven't been following this thread much. My passenger side mount is brand new. I had just replaced it before heading off to AMVIV. It was the dealer that suggested I look into replacing my lower mount when I got to AMVIV because it would be a lot less expensive than paying Canadian dollars at a Canadian dealership.

As it turned out, when Blair at Way Motor Works took off the lower mount for inspection, we noticed the cracks in the rubber bushing of the original stock mount. I'll give you a call regarding the mount that they put on my car.

Thx.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2010 | 07:51 PM
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BSH called today and I verified that you had the street version of the lower mount.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2010 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by WayMotorWorks
BSH called today and I verified that you had the street version of the lower mount.
Thanks for chiming in, Way. I think it's a bit too noisy inside for my personal tastes. I'm hoping it softens up a bit with more use.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 11:17 AM
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Here is a visual difference between the Race and Street Bushings. Honestly, its alot easier to test the durometer of the bushing by feeling it, however, if you are only able to look at it, look closely, there is a difference! Just like reading the age of a tree, the Race bushing (pictured left) has more tighter rings, vs the Street Bushing (pictures right)

 
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 12:36 PM
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I picked up the BSH street version at the Helix / RMW tune day a week ago, installed it and I love it. It is not shaking my car apart but it is a welcome difference. I am after all driving a very modded MCS and not a BMW 7 Series. They feel like your driving your couch down teh highway.

Like others have said it makes the car hook up and stay more planted when putting down the power.

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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 03:57 PM
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Having waited until the weather warmed up a bit more (Vancouver BC area), I notice that the vibration and noise has noticeably subsided. It is quite bearable now. Even desireable.

Having said that, there is a resonant frequency where at certain engine revs, the vibration and noise does increase and decreases again as revs continue to climb or go back down. So far, I've noticed 1100rpm is the first and then around 3100rpm. 1100rpm is rather aggravating as that is just before clutch take-up on a gentle acceleration.


I am keeping track of my observations so will post a long term review before winter comes around. I figure summer might be more of an ideal time to do a proper evaluation. Since it does not appear to be a major effort to swap the mount, I could probably do the swap between stock and the BSH mount as I swap my summer and winter tires.

So far the benefits:
Greatly reduced wheel hop when front tires are spinning.
Better front traction on off-angle turns
Noticeable reduction in torquesteer
Faster clutch take-up, less riding of the clutch.

I would highly recommend this product to those wanting to track their cars or autocross. However, not sure what it would do to your car's classification (might be considered modified).

If you can put up with the vibrations (sounds like many really like it), I would consider this a safety enhancement, particularly for those with reduction pulleys. However, the vibrations do damp out some of the great steering feedback we get from our MINI's suspensions.



 
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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 04:57 PM
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Ahhh, you've experienced the break-in! Although you had a long drive home, the break-in happens with about 1500 miles of street traffic, inwhich you are constantly rocking the bushings. How is the throttle response post 3100 rpm?
 
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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 09:03 PM
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On my route to work, I there is a street that is fairly steep uphill. It starts in a school zone so acceleration after the turn is limited. But past the school zone, there is a straight and then a bit of a dogleg left bend continued by a long straight. I usually go up the hill in a spirited manner. You have to lift off the throttle a bit going into the bend in case there is traffic coming downhill but right after the bend you can stomp on it. It is noticeable that power gets to the pavement sooner.
 
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Old May 2, 2010 | 07:27 PM
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I purchased this mount in street durometer from the Helix tent at MOTD. I already had the TSW upper mount installed which caused some VERY slight vibration at idle. From reading some of the reviews I was expecting this BSH lower mount to cause some major NVH but to my surprise, about the same as the TSW.

I have had an R32 with all of the VF mounts an also a GTi and Scirocco with the poly inserts, the poly insert cars were the most severe with NVH, the VF mounts in the R32 were noticeable but not bad after the break in period of 1k or so miles. I think this car has the least NVH of all of the cars I have installed aftermarket performance mounts in and I only have 50 miles on it so.

That said, the benefits are the same as the others, greatly reduced motor movement with faster engagement- I am glad I picked this up
 
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Old May 4, 2010 | 09:12 AM
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I picked one of these up as well at MOTD and i noticed a big difference in my 03 S...it doesnt feel sloppy anymore and as soon as i my foot comes off the clutch pedal im off to the races...feels like its just been tuned
 
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 12:44 AM
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Who should I order from for the fastest delivery time?

Would anyone like to trade me a BSH Lower Engine Mount (street) for a set of Autometer gauges?
 
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 07:52 AM
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We've got them in stock and ready to ship
http://www.waymotorworks.com/product...3&cat=0&page=1
 
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 08:12 AM
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I just swapped a M45 to Mr. Fast on there for a GTT oil catch can, only took a week or so to get it.
Sorry to chime in off topic but no way !!?? M45 circa £180 (thats for an old/damaged silver rotor charger too). GTT OCC (waste of money - if you able to take your IC off and clean it then the OCC is a waste of time IMO) at circa £90 brand new or less than £50 2nd hand.... :(

Cost of sending M45 to the US circa £100. Cost of sending OCC circa £30....

 
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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 12:10 PM
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Just letting everyone know that now both street and race kits are available for immediate shipment through us and our dealer network.

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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 08:53 AM
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When are you going to make an R53 upper engine mount to replace the crap standard hydraulic?

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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 08:58 AM
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I've been waiting for the same answer.. .
 

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i've been tempted to send a stock mount to tom at kartboy (big subaru guy) so he can make one....

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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by andyroo
When are you going to make an R53 upper engine mount to replace the crap standard hydraulic?

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Like this one?
http://www.txwerks.com/servlet/Detail?no=447
 
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