No.....

 

I haven't heard of this before, actually I've heard a lot of positive results of the M7. If it fits so badly, why not get in touch with the company and ask them about it? I'm pretty certain that they will make amends if you handle it properly. Advice: Screaming and yelling won't suffice.

 

To throw this out there, I recently purchased an Audi A4 with a broken timing belt. After lapping in eight new exhaust valves, three intake valves, a head gasket/heat bolts and a timing belt kit, I got the whole thing running again for less than $600 in parts. Is the engine destroyed to the point of no repair? I highly doubt it. If the head needs two valves, you can change two vales. If the head is damaged because of the bent valves, it is possible to give the head to a machine shop to repair it for less than the price to replace, even if you sourced a used one. The warranty on this car is most likely voided whether it is repaired, or the dealer replaces the entire engine at the customers expense. I would spend the money (at an independant shop) to have the valve cover removed, and the head pulled before going further. At that time, the few hours labor will be a fraction of the cost of a new motor, should the pistons be irrepairable/replaceable and considerable damage has been/has not been done to the cylindar walls (broken piston scoring the walls for example). You might be lucky to find out you need to replace two valves, a new tensioner, and necessary head bolts/gaskets to reassemble the engine.

 

 

I know this is off topic, but since we are talking about denied warranties and aftermarket parts I have a quick question: If I install an aftermarket FMIC could that possibly void my warranty? I know this might sound like a stupid question, but better safe than sorry.

Thanks

 

Yes and No -- Read the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act and you decide

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson-Moss_Warranty_Act

another could link on this subject:

http://www.knfilters.com/warrantyletter.htm

 

Thanks for the info ron. So from what I read, the installed "aftermarket part" has to be determined to have caused the problem for them to void your warranty, hopefully I read that right. I guess a better question is: has anyone had their warranty denied because of an aftermarket FMIC? I have been reading around NAM, but have never found a clear cut straight answer.

 

I do not think there is a "clear cut straight answer" -- Much has to do with the individual dealership.

I go out my way to create a positive relationship with mine by asking advice and discussing things with the service department, have not had any problems yet though. I am lucky as the dealership is very close to my work and home. With my mods they could easily claim I do not have a warranty.

 

The only problem I have with asking the service manager before I install a FMIC is that if he says it would void my warranty and I installed it anyway he would be looking for it. Where as if I did not say anything to him he would not be looking for an aftermarket FMIC and possible not catch it. I mean having an aftermarket CAI is a lot more noticeable than having a FMIC or am I just being too optimistic.

 

Exactly! That was my point. Unless he broke off a valve and it trashed the piston or gouged the cylinder wall, I think he should either repair or replace the head and move on. Changing out an entire engine because of a head (if it doesn't need anything else) is ridiculous.

You could have a head replaced for a 1/5th of the cost and one days worth of work.

Mark

 

Possibly not catch an aftermarket FMIC -- I do not think so.
They are going to find a aftermarket FMIC if there is a serious problem.

 

He swapped EVERY aftermarket part already.....yes , i help him with my mouth , becasue hes a retard. i still remember when he got his first car, he didnt know which way to loose/tighten bolts!!!!!!!Complete *******!!! Returning to subject. Yes , it is his fault, because, he didnt spend enough of time to get familiar with the car. Instead like a stupid hot head, he wanted to race everybody. Now becasue i have 2 short shifters on my car, it was really easy to mis-shift from 4th redline onto 3rd instead of 5th , so go figure....its clearly his fault, but whatever.....when he called me when the engine shut off and i arrived, i was about 90% sure that i was a fuel pump, since there was no odor of unburned gasoline coming out of the engine/tail pipe hence i told him to leave the aftermarket parts ON THE CAR...2 days after the incident, he tells me he mis-shifted, thats when i had this strange feeling of bigger issues......and here we are.....anyway, tomorrow hopefully my friend will come and restore the software to stock , and god willing ill get it into dealer tuesday morning or so...its taking my garage space LOL

 

Sounds like a moron to me....

kids....


It's about time he learned that if you play, you will pay. Part of being an adult.

Mark

 

WTF every1 starts somewhere. As soon as the car hit 1000miles it was beat on so don't go there that it's 100% my fault. Douchetool over there is just pissed cause he has a fractured leg.

 

NONE of my previous cars had broken timing chains( E46 m3, VW GTI 1.8t, Jaguar S-type v8, Mazda MX6 with t304E turbocharger upgrade) they were all nicely abused by me and only axles broke , meaning things broke that were supposed to break!!!!!.....if you know what your doing, parts rarely break unless they are cheaply made ( hence i stay away from American made cars)

 

Gee, this is sort of like sitting in on a conversation between Geoff and Brett Bodine about 12 or 14 years ago...

 

 

Wow this turned into a pissing match quickly

 

I've been reading all these posts and have to say I feel for you (Clubmamut).

I believe that Mini has created a culture that embraces modifications of the cars they sell. Mini's advertising is all about "you-ification", ..heck they even sell tuning kits (the JCW stage 1 and 2 kits), high performance brakes, and suspension all from the factory. Unfortunately the law is the law and it's most likely in the dealer's favor in this case, yet Mini does sell a lot of performance parts ..why shouldn't we be able to purchase a part from another dealer/shop that mimics what the dealer sells? I think the line isn't so black and white for smaller mod's yet sounds like you had a lot going on mod wise w/ your car. It probably was way too easy for the dealer to easily dismiss your cars issues w all the aftermarket parts. Lesson, for all of us, remove all your parts before you bring to the factory. -or wait until the warranty is complete before you go too mod crazy.

Heh, be thankful our Mini engines are only around $4-8k depending on who you purchase from. I am having my 930's engine rebuilt (been in the shop the last 5 months) ...the cost to rebuild and tune my engie (w/ performance parts) is more than my entire MCS cost new.

 

And to think we where taking this thread seriously!

 

cannot imagine what they say to each other f2f.

 

Lol well today or tomorrow is d-day. Car is totally stock. I'll update as soon as I can.

 

Right now it is. But in the computer, your car is heavily modified at the last diagnosis of your part failure. I honestly don't think you have much of a chance of getting MINI to fix the problem under warranty, but good luck never the less.

 

I would have to agree with Jeremy on this. If it is a money shift as your buddy mentioned, then it is time to pay up. Shifting from forth gear at redline into third gear is very likely to break/blow something. They will count this as abuse when they read the max rpms stored in the chip.

Good luck to you.

 

why does it have to be abuse? maybe there was an accident to be avoided and while in the heat of things a mis shift occurred..there are many different outcomes as to why a mis shift can happen.