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Old Nov 3, 2009 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by papester
From the latest Owners Manual for the Corvette.

Racing or Other Competitive Driving
Racing or competitive driving may affect the vehicle
warranty. See the warranty book before using the
vehicle for racing or other competitive driving.


I'm sorry.

What you posted does NOT say the car is covered for racing.

It specifically says racing may (will) affect you warranty.

If gives you advice for IF you do race. That's not the same as saying they'll cover you.


 
Old Dec 7, 2009 | 11:28 AM
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Dealership I bought my car at, who also sells Porsche, Audi, Lambo, RR, Bentley, Ferrari, and Lotus, holds track events every 2 months at Palm Beach International Raceway. They designate them as driver's ed track days(something like that) and not real racing events. I asked and if something were to happen mechanically then, they would cover it (assuming you are under warranty, I'm not so I don't care). It's really nice, they mix it up on the kart track, their version of autox, and the road course. Also, they told me, when I was under warranty, that the only mods I couldn't do because it would create more boost was downpipe and ECU remap.

The MINIs kick **** and usually have at least one in the top three with many of the times being first on the kart track
 

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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 11:50 AM
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How exactly is eveyone over reving there engines? If you add a program that drops the rev limiter it is your problem. Modern technolgy makes it almost impossible to over rev an engine. You get close and it retards the timing first then shut off the fuel. If your new computer programs raise the limits it is your issue. You play, you pay, plan and simple. Once you start changing the computer you are on your own. I have had vehicles that I cahnged in the past but you could reset to stock and erase any codes. They can still see the last time you reflashed your computer is they want to look hard enough.
Not sure why anyone or any program would remove the rev limiter completely.It is just plan stupid unless it is a race car and even Nascar uses rev limiters to protect the engine from a mis shift. They should be no way you can over rev a stock computer set up. On our snowmobniles and offshore boats we frequently hit the rev limiters. On the boat you go to bigger prop to
drop the RPM's at WOT. On the sleds we change the clutching to maximize performance by just staying out of the limiter but still allowing the clutches to fully open. The limiter is there as a means to protect the engine jsut in case. I do not blame a manufacture for not wanting to pay for abuse. If you can rev it past the limit they have impossed you are on your own.
 
Old Dec 7, 2009 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by tedbone72P
Dealership I bought my car at, who also sells Porsche, Audi, Lambo, RR, Bentley, Ferrari, and Lotus, holds track events every 2 months at Palm Beach International Raceway. They designate them as driver's ed track days(something like that) and not real racing events. I asked and if something were to happen mechanically then, they would cover it (assuming you are under warranty, I'm not so I don't care). It's really nice, they mix it up on the kart track, their version of autox, and the road course. Also, they told me, when I was under warranty, that the only mods I couldn't do because it would create more boost was downpipe and ECU remap.

The MINIs kick **** and usually have at least one in the top three with many of the times being first on the kart track
I pretty much cooked my brakes during a few of these events and Braman will not honor the warranty. 3-4 hours of hard driving each time on the large road coarse wasted my brakes. I bought a set of Wilwoods and may try them out this Sunday during the next event at PBIR.
 
Old Dec 7, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Island maser
How exactly is eveyone over reving there engines? If you add a program that drops the rev limiter it is your problem. Modern technolgy makes it almost impossible to over rev an engine. You get close and it retards the timing first then shut off the fuel. If your new computer programs raise the limits it is your issue. You play, you pay, plan and simple. Once you start changing the computer you are on your own. I have had vehicles that I cahnged in the past but you could reset to stock and erase any codes. They can still see the last time you reflashed your computer is they want to look hard enough.
Not sure why anyone or any program would remove the rev limiter completely.It is just plan stupid unless it is a race car and even Nascar uses rev limiters to protect the engine from a mis shift. They should be no way you can over rev a stock computer set up. On our snowmobniles and offshore boats we frequently hit the rev limiters. On the boat you go to bigger prop to
drop the RPM's at WOT. On the sleds we change the clutching to maximize performance by just staying out of the limiter but still allowing the clutches to fully open. The limiter is there as a means to protect the engine jsut in case. I do not blame a manufacture for not wanting to pay for abuse. If you can rev it past the limit they have impossed you are on your own.
If you are shifting from 4th at redline into 5th and miss 5th and stick it into 3rd by mistake no revlimiter is going to help with this. This is a mechanical over-rev and you will likely brake something.
 
Old Dec 7, 2009 | 12:38 PM
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he was denied-be cause- parts-tune- over revving his motor many times. then he returned to stock and went to a different dealership & deceive them, they did the right thing!!
 
Old Dec 7, 2009 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Island maser
How exactly is eveyone over reving there engines? If you add a program that drops the rev limiter it is your problem. Modern technolgy makes it almost impossible to over rev an engine.
With a manual tranny, rev to 6500 rpm on 4 th gear and shift it into 3 rd gear. And bam, over 8500 rpm and an engine w/o rods or pistons.

Modern tech does not protect you from a bad shift.
 
Old Dec 7, 2009 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by slinger688
With a manual tranny, rev to 6500 rpm on 4 th gear and shift it into 3 rd gear. And bam, over 8500 rpm and an engine w/o rods or pistons.

Modern tech does not protect you from a bad shift.
Yup...what he said. Can't protect yourself from simple physics
 
Old Dec 8, 2009 | 07:04 AM
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Oooh, Look out, Moderator coming...

...Ok, everyone be cool. Moderator is in the room (joke).

Seriously, don't wander off into bush league stuff here. It was a good thread for what is was worth, but its over now.

Let it go. Comments are attracting moderator attention.... I'm moderating without "Moderating"....

smp
 
Old Dec 8, 2009 | 07:20 AM
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 08:59 AM
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Agreed. This thread appears to have outlived it's usefulness.

Infractions given where appropriate.


Originally Posted by smportis
...Ok, everyone be cool. Moderator is in the room (joke).

Seriously, don't wander off into bush league stuff here. It was a good thread for what is was worth, but its over now.

Let it go. Comments are attracting moderator attention.... I'm moderating without "Moderating"....

smp
 
Old Dec 8, 2009 | 09:17 AM
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