How fast you go through the meth has nothing to do with temps. It depends on pump/nozzle size, boost, how you drive, and what settings you use

 

Im using an M2 nozzle with my meth kit (w 1.5gallon tank) and the tank can run out pretty quickly if your gunning it (I sometimes drive my car to the max over 200+kph on the freeway).

But on average, the meth will last me with a whole full gas tank cos im constantly on boost...

Ive setup mine starting min spray at 7.5psi and max spray at 14psi

 

Tony B did a comparison of the "new improved" GRS intercooler and a DFIC a while ago

As with most IC evaluations/comparisons the data is subjective

Check out this link
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...e-numbers.html

 

Well since that thread is now 3 years old and I know both the DFIC's on the market have gone thru changes and I'm sure,?, the GRS has been updated, those tests may not be accurate anymore. But since I just talked with Tony, I think I will give him a PM and see what he ended up with.

 

I didn't know that? Thanks. Guess I need to get more learned on this.

Hey thanks for the info I guess depending on how much about 1.5 gal costs here, once a tank wouldn't be to excessive.

 

and as long as your not tuned for meth, you can just put water (if your out of meth) for your cooling needs

 

If you just use water while it will cool you will loose hp...

 

yeap D-Man, thats very true...but at least the engine will like it under Boost conditions especially when its real hot

 

Good thing that we have the internet then - link away.

 

you'll have to search here on NAM - try posts by "Dr Obnoxs"

Long ago Dr Obnxs did testing of GTT, DFIC, GRS and STOCK.

I'll give you the summary of what I have learned about ICs (I've had stock, GTT, DFIC and Forge).

1) Stocker is a dam good unit.
2) Aftermarkets if they beat the stocker from a temp perspective they do so at a cost of pressure drop. And vise versa, an IC that beats the stocker from a pressure perspective does so at a cost of temp.

I have yet to see any data on an aftermarket IC that out performs the stock unit in both categories - temp and pressure.

That's why I want to see this UK data.

I can see why the GRS would be popular in the UK - its less restictive over stock (pressure drop) and the UK has cool climate (less temp sensitve - i.e. its not FLORIDA). Same holds true for the DFIC in hot climates while at a cost of pressure drop it lowers temps.

While an aftermarket might make your car feel a bit more lively - the reality is your splitting hairs. From a pure performance perspective one cannot justify an aftermarket IC and that is why it would be the last thing to do. From a cool factor, absolutely, its the first thing you see when you pop the hood. [

this puts a grin on face evertime I pop the hood

 

I'd look at alcohol/water injection before the intercooler. It's a pretty massive difference in the heat.

 

Thanks, and Intese did some IC testing last year also. Thats why I still run the stock IC, nothing has caught my interest yet. What IC is that you are using?

 

while I agree that the IC is not the best bang for your buck, but my point is if your looking into getting an aftermarket IC..then the GRS is the best one out there...

but back to the OP question...would definitely go for a performance header first

 

I'd do water/meth...
header....
I/C (if you must.... but most of the posts here are on the money)....

Another way to go is to hold onto that cash and save for a head. Now that's a REAL difference in power. And after you have a head on the car, then you'll have a good reason to do a header!

On the stock S motor, the biggest bottleneck to real power gains is the size of the stock exhaust valves and gas flow out of the head.

FWIW, I run a GP IC with thermal dispersant coating...

Matt

 

totally agree with the Doctor!!!! got everything you said there on the list..

plus my red hot cam and red hot head is coming soon!!!! yeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaa

 

is the thermal dispersant coating. Check out Cradin (www.cradin.com) for info. It's less than $100, and improves IATs about 1%.

Matt

 

The IC is a modified FORGE IC - It has an increase slope (front to back) and then it has the fixed scoop. Work quite well for an aftermarket.

 

Back it up

 

I'll link you the info if I find it k?

 

Dr. Obnxs, where did you get your gp intercooler from?

 

Can't you get a GP Vin # and go to a MINI dealership to order it?

 

to the GP Intercooler, but good luck getting one. We got very lucky to get ours. To get one from the dealer, you will need a vin # and show a damaged one. If you also order the cover and brackets for a complete kit, then it is going to raise flags and MINI USA isn't letting them go.

 

I dont have a GP VIN and wouldnt that be kind of suspicious giving them a VIN that isnt mine?

That is not very inspiring

 

Do you think that it would be worth coating a stock IC?

Partsman I belive modified a stock IC by cutting, bending and rewelding it to give it more space underneath for better airflow, I have seen pics, it looked pretty cool Not sure if it would be worth it though?

 

If you mated the ideas of Partsman with those of Bahamabart, you'd have a really effective "stock" intercooler that, if paired with a bigger scoop and effective diverter, would give you almost ALL the beneficial impact every IC mod in the last 5 years has created. It would look neat, be cool, and cost relatively little.
btw, once Partsman posts to this thread, I think we have once again recreated the official "Low IAT Group." We have quarterly meetings, here on NAM...