As you may have read in the RMW shorty code p0036 several of us were having a continuing problem of codes being thrown when using the RMW header. As I still have issues and my emails , phone calls and Pm's to Jan have gone unanswered I have been forced to once again try to get some answers to my dilemma via the forum. Based on what was said by Jan the guilty party is that Magnaflow sold him a bad batch of catalytic converters. It could happen , no one is perfect . The part that I didn't understand was when Jan made this statement .


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Every header out there that has sold as many headers as we have, has had some headers that have thrown codes. So Miltek, Janspeed and every other major brand never did testing? Come on ezput....... Most of the ones throwing codes were out of the last 2 batches of cats from Magnaflow. I called Magnaflow and spoke to their engineers after the batch that started throwing codes, they said they were fine and nothing was changed. So they said it must have been bad cats. (yes, due diligence was done immediately when the problem arose) There was about a 50% failure rate of last 2 batches. Magnaflow is not standing behind the product be we are fixing them on our own dime. I'm sorry you don't want to take the options I gave you, it's better than me telling you to take it up with Magnaflow


Now what I found strange that a company the size of Magnaflow with their reputation for standing behind there product would leave someone like RMW hanging in this manner . After quite a period of time I decided to call Magnaflow and see what might be done about this situation. Upon talking to Derek Acosta via the tech line 1-800-824-8664 I was given two surprises, well only one was a real surprise actually. The first is that Magnaflow was aware of the thread on NAM . The second " surprise " was that no one at Magnaflow had talked to Jan personally and declared that they would not stand behind their products. He also gave me the name of the Director of Engineering , Richard Waitif ext. 1174 and said that I could double check with him but he , Derek , was sure that it was not Magnaflow's policy to not stand behind something they made. What I found most disturbing was that no one at Magnaflow has any knowledge of a " bad batch " much less a " 50% failure rate of last 2 batches ".So bearing this in mind what am I and the others stuck in this similar situation to believe and more importantly what if any resolution will be forth coming ? As I mentioned earlier Magnaflow was aware of the previous thread and will be watching this new one as well. They welcome any calls to the above mentioned tech line if anyone needs further clarification .

For those of you that are just having the code issues popping up you can get a lot of the history of this problem here : Arty

https://www.northamericanmotoring.com/forums/drivetrain-cooper-s/162822-rmw-shorty-code-p0036.html

 

I initially thought the same thing when I read Jan's statement about Magnaflow not standing behind their product.

How could a company so big not warranty something so simple as a "bad batch"

This proves my initial assumptions to be true.

 

Wow....
I also found it strange as a company the size of Magnaflow would have quality control procedures in place that would prevent a large number of faulty products to slip through the cracks like that....and then if it did happen for a company not to replace such a large batch of faulty parts....not going to happen....

 

 

Not saying I disagree, but faults do happen, even to the likes of Magnaflow, Borla, etc...

But heck, isn't Magnaflow the owner of "million mile guarantee" or something like that?

 

I think Borla has the million mile warranty...but never the less, for Jan to state that "Magnaflow is not standing behind the product" is pretty bold.

Does he really think that out of everyone who has his header and supplemental codes, not one of them would actually contact Magnaflow to see what's going on with the cats?

 

I can't speak as to what the vendor thinks, so I don't know... You are right on Borla having that guarantee and not Magnaflow. Getting old, so my memory is not what it once was...

I never dealt with Magnaflow before, but a guy at work was wanting to get a Magnaflow catback, but he is now thinking of a different one because of that thread (which I never read) where it was stated that they don't stand behind their products. Magnaflow was one of the first to come-out with a catback for us, and I have heard of very few issues. Maybe quality control has changed in a tough economy? Either way, fault needs to be determined and rectified...

 

Oh look it's the same pack of vultures flying in to start ***** again.

Partsman
TonyB
ez1putt
3Mental
D-Man
JIMINNI
FRACKY

Were is nazrin and the rest .

I run a Magnaflow cat back and killed two resonator and they wouldn't warranty either one . They are about a 1/8th mile from my house. I even know an employee (middle management) and couldn't get it taken care of.

I know for a fact that big Mag told Jan to go pound sand. What they tell a customer on the customer service line is obviously a different story.

If they will warranty them then Jan's going to be a happy guy and might recoup some of his money. I doubt it very highly but with you guys calling maybe it will help .

Longboard

 

The pot calls the kettle black.

 

Oh man I'm sorry JIMINNI. I forgot to add you to the RMW haters club list.

LB

 

Dude you have a serious problem You are such a hypocrite. Truth hurts dont it? Show me a post where I "hated" RMW?

 

As someone in the middle... how do you know whether or not Magnaflow is telling the whole truth to you? Everything has an exception. Jan could be telling the truth or Magnaflow could be telling the truth.

 

OMG, Jan coming up with a story that's not true? I'm so, unbelievably shocked. ez1putt, I truly hope you get some positive resolution. Brian, you're absolutely classic.

 

It's Bryan Fracky and you Sr. are beyond classic.

I am very sorry again as not to remember to add you as well to the haters club. I will fix my mistake ASAP .

LB

 

Niiiiice. Glad I can trump your classic-ness Bryan. Add me to the list mang, cuz' you'ze a winner. Now back to the OP's thread.

 

Did someone call my name? heheheh...stayin away from this one, as I dont own the dreaded code conjurer (Luckily)...
I wanna make the middle-aged surfer dude happy

 

If you are going to disrespect and libel me - please at least get my handle correct.

I did not say a thing to "start *****." Six stars, not sure what the word is, and do not care to know.

All I stated was my own personal feelings on the matter, nothing more and nothing less.

Not sure why you have to post when you have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.... I repeat ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to add to this post.

Please reply when you have a reply that actually pertains first hand to this thread.

I for one have had one of the headers that caused codes in which I was told to give the owner of the company my address so they could ship me a "fix" to the problem. That never happened. I guess they were too busy helping other customers who spend $1000.00+ dollars on products that are purchased blindly via the good word of people on the internet... like say... YOU!!


I thought you were a pretty cool guy.. I stood up for you when other members said you were a douche... then you go and black mail me in a different thread - where you libel me again completely out of context and don't even quote me because you can't in order to make me look like I have an issue.

NAM should seriously do something about you guys. You have free run of this place and people like myself come here looking for good information and think they can trust you, but you end up screwing them over.

You talk crap about anyone who has anything to say negative about RMW.. It's a free country, we can say whatever we want.

The truth has been stated in this thread.. You can't do anything about it except talk bad about people to change the subject!

 

It does happen. You should see what Seagate did when the found out that there 500, 750 and 1000 gigabyte hard drives had a "bricking problem".

 

LB your mind boggling!!!! Calling a aftermarket exhaust icon a liar. I guess what is really mind boggling is that Internet Brands lets your road show go on. This is the second time(that I know of) that RMW has not been exactly honest with and to the NAM community. The first was as you remember is when he claimed the Newman cam as his own grind but it turned out that it was a stock eveyday cam right off Newman's shelf, oh and at a premium price at that. Now here is the second, RMW and you making a claim that Magnaflow.......MAGNAFLOW will not back their products and also have a run of cats that they are just turning their backs on, I invite any and all to call the tech line and get the answer from the horse's mouth and not the horse's a$$. Lastly, I find it disturbing that Internet Brands lets a vendor and his fanboyz go into threads and bash away like you do, take the Nitrostick thread for example. Or to start threads bashing other vendors products, take the Mynes header code thread for example. What this thread is about is Jan making up storys to blame everyone else for his ineptness, the latest victum being Magnaflow, when it is so easy to disprove.

 

Well I guess it's my turn 1ezputz. So what your your saying is Jan is like Fireball ,Hubie and Mynes when they said they broke all the codes in the ECU when if fact they downloaded GP software in all the cars. Did you forget about that??????

I could be wrong about Mynes being involved. If I'm wrong on that one let me know. I'll remove that part.

 

You know I can't speak on that because I don't know but you could ask Jan he should know because he was a small part of the team back in the Fireball days. What I do understand is that Jan is currently installing a can tune "borrowed" from a JCW R56 that he is calling his own. I guess that instead of calling him Revolution Mini Works we should be calling him Revolution MIMIC Works

 

ez1putt, did Magnaflow offer to help you out?

 

You believe everything Jan and Longboard tells you, that's fine. Which makes you as clueless as them. They tell you that we loaded GP software into all cars we tuned. Which means those years ranges from 2002-2008 (R52). If this person who knows anything about Siemens ECU's should already know that 2002-2004 Siemens ECU uses the same vector tables, 2005 Siemens ECU has a different vector table, 2005 Siemens VDO ECU uses a different variant of the C167 series micro and vector table, 2006 Siemens VDO uses a the same variant C167 series micro as the 2005 Siemens VDO ECU but uses a totally different vector table.

Now what does all that means you ask???

2002-2004 Siemens ROMS - are interchangable, only if the original 2002 code has been updated to current Leakage Diagnosis Pump fix Software. So that means you can't use GP software in these ECU's.

2005 Siemens ECU - only can use ROMS of this year, can't upload 2002-2004 software into it. Means you can't use GP software.

2005 Siemens VDO ECU- only can use ROMS of this year, can't upload 2005 Siemens ECU ROMS or 2002-2004 Siemens ECU ROMS, or even 2006 Siemens VDO ROMS. So this means you can't use GP software into these ECU's

2006 Siemens VDO ECU- only can use 2006 ROMS, you can't upload any ROM from the previous years into this ECU. You can use GP Software into these ECU's.

2007-2008 (R52) Siemens VDO ECU- only can use these two years, because it's different vector table address than the 2006 Siemens VDO ECU. So you can't use a GP software into this ECU either.

Now this is where the GP comes into play. You can update a regular 2006 MCS with a GP ROM since the GP has some code fixes. Just like RMW loads a JCW into a MCS because it's a better ROM to start off with. It's been a couple of cars we fix tunes on a 2006 MCS model after a RMW tune, and it has 2006 GP Software as well!!!! Not going to mention these people names. So the outcome to this make sure you copy and save this statement to your desktop: YOU CAN ONLY UPLOAD A GP ROM ONLY IN 2006 MODEL MCS SIEMENS VDO ECU. IF YOU TRY TO UPLOAD GP SOFTWARE INTO ANY OTHER YEARS, YOU WILL GET A NO START CONDITION.

So when your Jan and Longboard makes statements that we just loaded GP Software into every car we have tuned, that just shows they have no idea how this ECU works and all it's variants. For an example Tex Guthrie's car that we tuned some years back, and when he races and he wins. Longboard made a statement that we use GP software into Tex's car, and his car is a 2002 model which his ECU for one uses a different variant processor than a GP processor, so how can that work?

So if you are still hoodwink by Jan, try this... buy his remote tune stuff, and try to interchange GP software into previous years. Download a GP ROM yourself, and flash it into a 2002-2005 car yourself, and see what happens.

So back to the thread.

 

Hi davis, No they did not offer to help and they should not because it is not their problem that Jan's header is throwing codes.
Well newbs there is your answer from a man that really does know, I wonder why Jan can't answer questions with the techanical knowhow of a real tuner?

 

Damn Jay...we need a "head hurts" smilie after reading your posts.
You obviously know what you're doing with the MINI ECU of any year, which is why the people who have Mynes tunes are happy and don't need retunes.