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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 01:41 PM
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Funny have ya ever looked in the mirror while your pointing your finger? No matter the situation, every time I have, I've always been pointing at the same person......
I'm not pointing at anybody... simply "pointing out the facts" and at the dyno graph
 
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by minimarks
One very happy RMW tune customer here!!!

Funny have ya ever looked in the mirror while your pointing your finger? No matter the situation, every time I have, I've always been pointing at the same person......

That's good and that what it should be I am glad that you are happy, and our customers are happy as well. Very good point!
 
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 02:01 PM
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It's time for PINKS bet. the 2 tuners. All 1.6L, same level of mods:

1. 15% pulley
2. stock intercooler
3. choice of injectors & volume capacity
4. RMW vs Megamynes Headers
5. same cat-back exhaust
6. on 91 octane gas
7. same CAI.
8. same suspension set-up
9. same wheel & tire.
10. RMW vs Myne Tune.

This should be a good one. The Turbo vs TVS on 1.6 L open mods will be the grand final show.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 02:09 PM
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further proof that whp and hub hp is nothing more than pure bs..... along with hp calculators from 1/4mi times..... Paul seems to think this car has 250bhp..... funny it really only has 199 dynapack hp
............and 250hub horsepower goes 2.10 at butonwillow so what do you need to go sub 2.00 there
 
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by roggenmini
After AMVIV a group of us decided to head on down to Cali and meet up with Jan and get our MINI's Tuned. That was the best decision I have made thus far with my MINI mods. After getting it on the Dyno and doing the first pull I was blown away with where I started. After a few Magical Tweaks from Jan the numbers went up! Finally it was time to put it to the real test, the Butt Dyno! So I jumped in and let 'er rip. After finally getting the tires to hook up I was thrown back in my seat and held on for the rid of my life. The power started low in the rpms and went all the way to 7200! Now I have the addiction and will not be able to stop! And I thought bolt ons were good enough, boy was I wrong.



As you can see from the Graph I started around 210/191 and went to 219/199! Now if only I would not have run out of fuel I know those numbers would have been higher. Guess I will get the bigger injectors ordered.

I am totally amazed what Jan was able to do with my car, no hype no lies just pure unadulterated power gains!!!

Thanks goes out to Jan and all those who pushed me in his direction.

Wow, great results!!! I've been rocking my Jan tune for about 10 months now and it still runs like a champ, best bucks spent on my Mini!!!
 
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 02:24 PM
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That's awesome, good numbers and graphs, and awesome results!
 
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 02:30 PM
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Well....

Just my opinion here, The main reason myself and my friends decided NOT to go with Mynes was your lack of R53 tuning experience or should I say "involvement"? You guys have just popped on the scene a couple months ago here. Now this could be just our observation and information that we had available.

Jason you keep telling stories about Evos and Subies..... I don't care about them. I care about my R53 and who has the most experience tuning it. Jan at RMW was that man. Its my opinion that he has superior knowledge and experience over Mynes.

You guys can fight, claw and scratch your way through these boards trying to get customers and thats fine. You run things how you see fit. Its my opinion that you guys have a lot to prove to this community. Feel free to do it. Get some tune days under your belts if you can, and lets see what you can do. Up to this point its all been talk from you the way I see it...

Another question, you keep saying how your mustang Dyno reads lower than a dynopac or a dynojet

How on earth are you pulling these kinda of numbers off a mustang dyno??

WHP WTQE
171 149 Bone Stock (untuned) = And "YES", we got lucky with our 06 MCS, we have a strong motor
191 153 Bone Stock w/ Custom-Tuned
201 164 15% Pulley with Bosch 550cc Injectors + "One-Ball"
211 173 15% Pulley with Bosch 550cc Injectors + Shrick Cam
234 18415% Pulley with Bosch 550cc Injectors + Shrick Cam + E85 Fuel
243 193 15% Pulley with Bosch 550cc Injectors + Shrick Cam + E85 Fuel + MegaMynes Header (Straight version)
248 198 15% Pulley with Bosch 550cc Injectors + Shrick Cam + E85 Fuel + MegaMynes Header (Straight version)+ Invidia Exhaust

Did you adjust it so you have numbers everyone is used to seeing from RMW? Just curious...
 
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Intense
Did you adjust it so you have numbers everyone is used to seeing from RMW? Just curious...
For your information, we just got our dyno serviced and calibrated by Don at Mustang Dyno last month and get this service 6 times a year. You can call Mustang Dyno yourself and ask for Don, and ask him yourself. Here's the number: (330) 963-5400 or 888-468-7826 toll-free. What ever settings Don calibrated our dyno to Mustang Dyno specs is what it is simple as that.

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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Intense
Well....

Just my opinion here, The main reason myself and my friends decided NOT to go with Mynes was your lack of R53 tuning experience or should I say "involvement"? You guys have just popped on the scene a couple months ago here. Now this could be just our observation and information that we had available.
And that's where your information is not correct. That 10-second Drag MINI from MINIUSA, we tuned it. That car has been running since 2005. We have been involved in tuning MINI's for a while now, just been behind the scenes.

We are not looking to convert RMW customers; we have our own clients and if someone wants to switch from either side, that's a choice they can make based on all the facts...
 
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jaytech
For your information, we just got our dyno serviced and calibrated by Don at Mustang Dyno last month and get this service 6 times a year. You can call Mustang Dyno yourself and ask for Don, and ask him yourself. Here's the number: (330) 963-5400 or 888-468-7826 toll-free. What ever settings Don calibrated our dyno to Mustang Dyno specs is what it is simple as that.

Any other questions I can answer for you?
I Dyno'd my car on a mustang dyno with the following mods at COBB Racing: 17%, Invidia catback, DFIC, CAI no tune

Here is the BEST RUN out of three on COBB's mustang dyno ~ 160hp and 146trq



I'm just saying that it looks like with the mods I had at that time on your dyno my numbers would have been considerably higher Now I was told by COBB that on a dynopac or dynojet my numbers would have been about 20hp higher. Thats exactly what I saw the first run on Jan's Dynopac at 183hp. Thats also what Shawn Church told me when I spoke with him. They both told be that Mustang dyno's read lower.

Its also my understanding (sloppy and limited as it is) that if you were to dyno several cars on several different dyno's, mustang, dynojet, dynopac etc. If at the end you again dyno'd them all on the same dyno they would all be within 2-3% of each other. So, in the end it mostly semantics I'm thinking

Look Jason, I'm not trying to bash you and Mynes, or call you guys liars or anything. I am simply stating my experience on a mustang dyno doesn't reflect what your numbers are showing. I was just curious if you guys adjusted it to read higher to show numbers most people in this community are used to seeing. Thats it, am I gonna call your dyno calibrator? No...

Seriously guys, I'm not out to hurt Mynes or what your doing. Hell... I had the gumption to talk to you and look into what you were doing before making a decision when tuning my car this time around. In the end I decided to go with the ole tried and true experienced R53 tuner RMW
 
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 03:44 PM
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Jaytech then why are you on a thread about RMW tunes talking about your Mustang dynos, etc.? This thread is about the results some guys got from RMW tunes after AMVIV....
 
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jaytech
And that's where your information is not correct. That 10-second Drag MINI from MINIUSA, we tuned it. That car has been running since 2005. We have been involved in tuning MINI's for a while now, just been behind the scenes.
That 10 second turbo drag car is a whole lot different beasty than my supercharged street car daily driver. Again, lots of tuning going into that thing I'm sure but of a different type with a stand alone I'm guessing. I've never said you guys didn't know how to tune. I said I have never heard of you in any of the Mini boards or communities I'm part of. For me your a newcomer

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We are not looking to convert RMW customers; we have our own clients and if someone wants to switch from either side, that's a choice they can make based on all the facts...
I totally agree with this statement. You know what else? I find the banter between vendors and customers fun and amusing! ......to a point. All to often that line gets crossed. Hell, I've been known to cross it at times myself. Its all to easy to get carried away when your passionate about something
 
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by minimarks
Jaytech then why are you on a thread about RMW tunes talking about your Mustang dynos, etc.? This thread is about the results some guys got from RMW tunes after AMVIV....
You seriously ask that question? I am on here originally answering and quoted yellowbritish had mynes tune in his thread about torque. Even you minimarks made remarks in our threads as well, so what your point? It seem like you guys have short-term memory. Don't do stuff to others what you don't want done back to you.

Let's do this... next time we post anything for our customers for them to ask questions and who are interested in buying our products. And RMW customers who have no intentions of buying stay out of the thread, and we stay out of RMW threads. Can that happen or not? Or is that too much like doing the right thing? Now I don't mind if someone in our thread personally attacks RMW in our thread, and RMW comes in and defend what ever is being said. I don't think it's nothing wrong with that. Do you guys agree or not?
 

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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 04:26 PM
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Rob, It looks like your base dyno numbers and the Mynes "Green Machine's Dyno" numbers are almost identical... both of our Mustang dyno read pretty close.

Your Base Numbers on Cobb's MD: 160whp/146wtqe with stock rev-limiter 6950rpm.
Mynes Base Numbers on our MD: 171whp/149wtqe with rev-limiter raised to 7300.

As i stated in my Post #2 of the Mynes Thread, we raised the rev-limiter to 7300rpm b/c that's where MINIs make the peak horsepower (you "ole tried and true experienced R53 tuner" should have told you that, no?). So if you raised your Rev-Limiter were to be raised to 7300rpm, and i'm sure your base dyno number would be around 170whp.

So bottomline is this: Your MINI and the MYNES Green MINI start at the SAME BASELINE numbers!!! You proved it right here... Even though you have the 17% pulley and the exhaust, the car does NOT take up all the adaptions and make power on its own... that's why a custom tune is really important to harness all the potential of these upgrades. By increasing the rev-limiter 350 rpm (from 6950 to 7300), any mini is going to make more power.

So your observations about the Mynes MD reading high is unfounded. So if you want to find out how much power your car is really making right now, just take your car back to Cobb's MD and you'll get the REAL Dyno number

Cheers.
mike

Originally Posted by Intense
I Dyno'd my car on a mustang dyno with the following mods at COBB Racing: 17%, Invidia catback, DFIC, CAI no tune

Here is the BEST RUN out of three on COBB's mustang dyno ~ 160hp and 146trq



I'm just saying that it looks like with the mods I had at that time on your dyno my numbers would have been considerably higher Now I was told by COBB that on a dynopac or dynojet my numbers would have been about 20hp higher. Thats exactly what I saw the first run on Jan's Dynopac at 183hp. Thats also what Shawn Church told me when I spoke with him. They both told be that Mustang dyno's read lower.

Look Jason, I'm not trying to bash you and Mynes, or call you guys liars or anything. I am simply stating my experience on a mustang dyno doesn't reflect what your numbers are showing. I was just curious if you guys adjusted it to read higher to show numbers most people in this community are used to seeing. Thats it, am I gonna call your dyno calibrator? No...
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The age-old question goes like this: How much power can i gain from a Custom tune? Answer listed below:

NOTE: For the sake of a fair comparison, we raised the stock Rev Limitor to 7300RPM while not touching the rest of the mapping. If we had kept the stock rev-limitor, then the "DELTA" from our custom tune would be even higher. But we are more interested in comparing "apple to apple" rather than having better looking numbers that do not truly reflect the situation...

Peak HP is typically achieved at 7250RPM... if that was the case, by simply removing the STOCK rev limitor and moving it to 7300 will get you an extra 5-10WHP. But as a tuner, i can't claim that credit as a result of my tuning... and that's probably why my stock MCS is reading "high" on the HP. But if one examines the entire curve, it's evident that the power curve has been moved up at the higher RPM range... now that's the "gain" that i can claimed as the true DELTA of a custome tune

Why Isn't my Torque number higher with a tune? Torque is a directly affected by boost level and engine displacement. Without mechanical changes, the tune can only do so much to increase the Torque number.

WHP WTQE
171 149 Bone Stock (untuned) = We got lucky with our 06 MCS and ended up with a strong "Wednesday" motor
191 153 Bone Stock w/ Custom-Tuned

This is the correct graph below:



This graph belongs in Post #4... (sorry, it was late when i posted this :( )...
 
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jaytech
You seriously ask that question? I am on here originally answering and quoted yellowbritish had mynes tune in his thread about torque. Even you minimarks made remarks in our threads as well, so what your point? It seem like you guys have short-term memory. Don't do stuff to others what you don't want done back to you.

Let's do this... next time we post anything for our customers for them to ask questions and who are interested in buying our products. And RMW customers who have no intentions of buying stay out of the thread, and we stay out of RMW threads. Can that happen or not? Or is that too much like doing the right thing? Now I don't mind if someone in our thread personally attacks RMW in our thread, and RMW comes in a defend what ever is being said. I don't think it's nothing wrong with that. Do you guys agree or not?
Maybe my memory fails me but the only threads that I have posted in that might be considered yours was when Mynes made an open challenge to RMW and when accepted the original challenge was being altered, then an issue (in the same thread) was trying to be made of Jan having parts outsourced and I ask if Mynes manufactured all their turbos in house which was never answered other than PM's from you to me.... If Onasled is part of Mynes then I did defend RMW when an issue was being made over the cam being manufactured by Newmans (same subject as above). Show me where I have posted in any of your tuning day threads or your main thread... I have nothing against you/Mynes making and selling great mods for our cars and wish you success.

I am posting this in a thread about RMW tune results.
 

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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 04:53 PM
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Maybe my memory fails me but the only threads that I have posted in that might be considered yours was when Mynes made an open challenge to RMW and when accepted the original challenge was being altered, then an issue (in the same thread) was trying to be made of Jan having parts outsourced and I ask if Mynes manufactured all their turbos in house which was never answered other than PM's from you to me.... If Onasled is part of Mynes then I did defend RMW when an issue was being made over the cam being manufactured by Newmans (same subject as above). Show me where I have posted in any of your tuning day threads or your main thread... I have nothing against you/Mynes making and selling great mods for our cars and wish you success.

I am posting this in a thread about RMW tune results.
To answer your question, yes we manufacturer our own turbo kits for various vehicles and even for the new kit we are currently making for our shop MINI. You can do a google search on MYNES turbo kits and manifolds if you like. And we also manufacture our own Engine Management System as well, all done in house including software and hardware.
 

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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike@Mynes
Rob, It looks like your base dyno numbers and the Mynes "Green Machine's Dyno" numbers are almost identical... both of our Mustang dyno read pretty close.

Your Base Numbers on Cobb's MD: 160whp/146wtqe with stock rev-limiter 6950rpm.
Mynes Base Numbers on our MD: 171whp/149wtqe with rev-limiter raised to 7300.

As i stated in my Post #2 of the Mynes Thread, we raised the rev-limiter to 7300rpm b/c that's where MINIs make the peak horsepower (you "ole tried and true experienced R53 tuner" should have told you that, no?). So if you raised your Rev-Limiter were to be raised to 7300rpm, and i'm sure your base dyno number would be around 170whp.

So bottomline is this: Your MINI and the MYNES Green MINI start at the SAME BASELINE numbers!!! You proved it right here... Even though you have the 17% pulley and the exhaust, the car does NOT take up all the adaptions and make power on its own... that's why a custom tune is really important to harness all the potential of these upgrades. By increasing the rev-limiter 350 rpm (from 6950 to 7300), any mini is going to make more power.

So your observations about the Mynes MD reading high is unfounded. So if you want to find out how much power your car is really making right now, just take your car back to Cobb's MD and you'll get the REAL Dyno number

Cheers.
mike

Mike, If my rev limiter was raised to 7300 with my mods at the time yes, MAYBE I would have pulled 170hp. Had I done a baseline run before mods with my car on COBB's mustang dyno I would have been lucky to get 140-145hp unlike your 171 with a raised limiter...

So, your saying that if I raised my rev limiter to 7300 with no mods on my car that would have dyno'd stock at 145. Your saying I would get 170hp?? Not even close Mike

Your car on the other hand with a 7300 limit 17%, cai and exhaust would have pulled 190+ on your dyno I have no doubt

Are you saying that raising the rev limiter to 7300 does the same thing as adding a 17% pully, cai and exhaust??

...I'm having a hard time reading your last post without wondering if your drinking right now, guess it is Sat evening. Not to be a ***** but come on
 

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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 05:14 PM
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oh boy.... You guys have a nice weekend Happy motoring!
 
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Well....

Just my opinion here, The main reason myself and my friends decided NOT to go with Mynes was your lack of R53 tuning experience or should I say "involvement"? You guys have just popped on the scene a couple months ago here. Now this could be just our observation and information that we had available.

Jason you keep telling stories about Evos and Subies..... I don't care about them. I care about my R53 and who has the most experience tuning it. Jan at RMW was that man. Its my opinion that he has superior knowledge and experience over Mynes.

You guys can fight, claw and scratch your way through these boards trying to get customers and thats fine. You run things how you see fit. Its my opinion that you guys have a lot to prove to this community. Feel free to do it. Get some tune days under your belts if you can, and lets see what you can do. Up to this point its all been talk from you the way I see it...
I was going to have my 06 R53 ECU flashed by Jason of Mynes in April 07 at the old Fireballed shop. He could not make it due to other commitments. Point is, they do have significant experience with R53s.
 
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Let's do this... next time we post anything for our customers for them to ask questions and who are interested in buying our products. And RMW customers who have no intentions of buying stay out of the thread, and we stay out of RMW threads. Can that happen or not? Or is that too much like doing the right thing? Now I don't mind if someone in our thread personally attacks RMW in our thread, and RMW comes in and defend what ever is being said. I don't think it's nothing wrong with that. Do you guys agree or not?
Funny but I just checked your "green machine" thread, your header thread, your NY tuning day thread, your FL tuning day thread and your customer tune thread and Jan didn't post in any of then .

I guess Jan is doing the right thing as apposed to the Mynes boys. Now do the same same and don't post back.

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Funny but I just checked your "green machine" thread, your header thread, your NY tuning day thread, your FL tuning day thread and your customer tune thread and Jan didn't post in any of then .

I guess Jan is doing the right thing as apposed to the Mynes boys. Now do the same same and don't post back.

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Yeah but you have...

Guessing that won't happen anymore per your request...
 
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Funny but I just checked your "green machine" thread, your header thread, your NY tuning day thread, your FL tuning day thread and your customer tune thread and Jan didn't post in any of then .

I guess Jan is doing the right thing as apposed to the Mynes boys. Now do the same same and don't post back.

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Jan doesn't have to post...he just tells your guys what to say and they post it.
C'mon Brian...you're making it difficult to keep the peace.
 
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Yeah, I think I'm losing my hearing everytime I'm in my MINI--I'm more concerned about my son sitting in back. The Magnaflow resonator certainly doesn't help the Invidia/RMW header combo. And neither do the custom solid rubber hanger mounts that makes my MINI vibrate and hum....

If the quiet exhaust will improve the broken/tearing exhaust hanger problem I had, along with quieting the exhaust..then I'm all for it.....sigh...but I need to get a new clutch put in first....I gotta learn how to drive my car properly with all that torque.

My butt loves my RMW mods! My pocketbook doesn't!

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I love this exhaust so very much, I'm so glad Jan was able to help me quiet my car down. I had the invidia and it was just mind melting loud
 
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 11:14 PM
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Jan doesn't have to post...he just tells your guys what to say and they post it.
C'mon Brian...you're making it difficult to keep the peace.

Yup I remember those conversations, never did and never will my brain can get me in enough trouble as it is
 
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Yup I remember those conversations, never did and never will my brain can get me in enough trouble as it is
Mine too...

Conversations...hmmm
 
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