Drivetrain 380 injectors
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I don't think so, my version is licensed....sorry. If you want you can get your MINI ROM and disassemble it and find out and understand how it works. Maybe you can go to Infineon's site download the processor's data sheet and instruction set manual. Then load your ROM into an disassembly program of your choice. Find out the Siemens ECU memory mapping, analyze the program and get to disassembling. After you done going through the code, maybe you would have a better understanding to ask someone to release a open source version after 2 years of work. Maybe you can ask Evotech, MTH, GIAC, Dimsport and others for an open source version as well...LOL
Last edited by jaytech; Mar 13, 2009 at 07:51 AM. Reason: add
Anybody tried these single stream(4 holed nozzle) Bosch Generation III injectors before??? They've got 450's and 550's too.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...AQ:MOTORS:1123
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...AQ:MOTORS:1123
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I don't think so, my version is licensed....sorry. If you want you can get your MINI ROM and disassemble it and find out and understand how it works. Maybe you can go to Infineon's site download the processor's data sheet and instruction set manual. Then load your ROM into an disassembly program of your choice. Find out the Siemens ECU memory mapping, analyze the program and get to disassembling. After you done going through the code, maybe you would have a better understanding to ask someone to release a open source version after 2 years of work. Maybe you can ask Evotech, MTH, GIAC, Dimsport and others for an open source version as well...LOL
Sounds like to much work for this old brain......I'll leave it up to you young'uns then.
PRODUCT UPDATE:
We ordered a set of the "450cc" injectors from FiveO and they are "resized" injectors. This means the original size was smaller and they were modified (drilled out) to the bigger size. After closer examination of the injector holes, this is indeed the case b/c we can see the holes are not 100% identical.
So here are the Pro's and Con's on these injectors:
Pro:
- Direct plug in, no adapters needed.
- Less expensive than the Factory Bosch 550cc injectors.
Cons:
- The holes are drilled out to a bigger size; spray patterns 'unknown'.
- Minor variation are to be expected from set to set (or even from injector to injector within the same set of 4 injectors).
- Atomization is likely less favorable than the Factory 550's.
This is directly from my Bosch Supplier: "Those injectors are actually 250cc that he drills out to 450cc, the red ones are 320cc that he drills the same way; the factory spray pattern of the EV14 injectors I sold you are much better."
Here is a pic of the "450cc" "Drilled Out" Bosch injectors (4-hole pattern):
Here is a pic of the Factory 550cc Bosch Injectors (6-hole pattern) that Mynes has been using and selling:
Side-by-Side comparison between the 450cc (yellow) and the OE 550cc (Green):
These are the Bosch 550cc 6-hole injectors that we've been using on our testing. These are the EV14 connectors so we need to use an adapter to fit the EV1 on the Mini Harness. The injectors fit perfectly, and the adapters raises the profile of the connector but it still fits fine underneath the factory IC. We sell these for $300.00 shipped for the CONTI-USA.
We ordered a set of the "450cc" injectors from FiveO and they are "resized" injectors. This means the original size was smaller and they were modified (drilled out) to the bigger size. After closer examination of the injector holes, this is indeed the case b/c we can see the holes are not 100% identical.
So here are the Pro's and Con's on these injectors:
Pro:
- Direct plug in, no adapters needed.
- Less expensive than the Factory Bosch 550cc injectors.
Cons:
- The holes are drilled out to a bigger size; spray patterns 'unknown'.
- Minor variation are to be expected from set to set (or even from injector to injector within the same set of 4 injectors).
- Atomization is likely less favorable than the Factory 550's.
This is directly from my Bosch Supplier: "Those injectors are actually 250cc that he drills out to 450cc, the red ones are 320cc that he drills the same way; the factory spray pattern of the EV14 injectors I sold you are much better."
Here is a pic of the "450cc" "Drilled Out" Bosch injectors (4-hole pattern):
Here is a pic of the Factory 550cc Bosch Injectors (6-hole pattern) that Mynes has been using and selling:
Side-by-Side comparison between the 450cc (yellow) and the OE 550cc (Green):
These are the Bosch 550cc 6-hole injectors that we've been using on our testing. These are the EV14 connectors so we need to use an adapter to fit the EV1 on the Mini Harness. The injectors fit perfectly, and the adapters raises the profile of the connector but it still fits fine underneath the factory IC. We sell these for $300.00 shipped for the CONTI-USA.
Last edited by Mike@Mynes; Mar 17, 2009 at 01:30 PM.
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Yes we will release the remote tuning software very soon. Also the software will allow you to datalog, read and clear DTC's (OBD II codes and MINI PC codes), clear and reset ADAPTATIONS. This would allow the user to send us a datalog from a dyno run and tune the car accordinately to your engine and mods, and not some base map for all sort of thing like other remote tunes out there. Every car is different, that's why the factory uses "ADAPTATIONS" (learning values) to try to keep every vehicle close to operating parameters written in software. If every engine was the same, then this feature is not needed. We are working on other electronic devices for the R53 and R56 as well.
Jason
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Jason
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Seeing as the Mini DME has been Tromped, you should also have the capabilty to tune E46,E53,E85,e83 etc. basically anything that uses a seimens MS style DME ?
PRODUCT UPDATE:
We ordered a set of the "450cc" injectors from FiveO and they are "resized" injectors. This means the original size was smaller and they were modified (drilled out) to the bigger size. After closer examination of the injector holes, this is indeed the case b/c we can see the holes are not 100% identical.
So here are the Pro's and Con's on these injectors:
Pro:
- Direct plug in, no adapters needed.
- Less expensive than the Factory Bosch 550cc injectors.
Cons:
- The holes are drilled out to a bigger size; spray patterns 'unknown'.
- Minor variation are to be expected from set to set (or even from injector to injector within the same set of 4 injectors).
- Atomization is likely less favorable than the Factory 550's.
This is directly from my Bosch Supplier: "Those injectors are actually 250cc that he drills out to 450cc, the red ones are 320cc that he drills the same way; the factory spray pattern of the EV14 injectors I sold you are much better."
Here is a pic of the "450cc" "Drilled Out" Bosch injectors (4-hole pattern):
Here is a pic of the Factory 550cc Bosch Injectors (6-hole pattern) that Mynes has been using and selling:
Side-by-Side comparison between the 450cc (yellow) and the OE 550cc (Green):
These are the Bosch 550cc 6-hole injectors that we've been using on our testing. These are the EV14 connectors so we need to use an adapter to fit the EV1 on the Mini Harness. The injectors fit perfectly, and the adapters raises the profile of the connector but it still fits fine underneath the factory IC. We sell these for $300.00 shipped for the CONTI-USA.
We ordered a set of the "450cc" injectors from FiveO and they are "resized" injectors. This means the original size was smaller and they were modified (drilled out) to the bigger size. After closer examination of the injector holes, this is indeed the case b/c we can see the holes are not 100% identical.
So here are the Pro's and Con's on these injectors:
Pro:
- Direct plug in, no adapters needed.
- Less expensive than the Factory Bosch 550cc injectors.
Cons:
- The holes are drilled out to a bigger size; spray patterns 'unknown'.
- Minor variation are to be expected from set to set (or even from injector to injector within the same set of 4 injectors).
- Atomization is likely less favorable than the Factory 550's.
This is directly from my Bosch Supplier: "Those injectors are actually 250cc that he drills out to 450cc, the red ones are 320cc that he drills the same way; the factory spray pattern of the EV14 injectors I sold you are much better."
Here is a pic of the "450cc" "Drilled Out" Bosch injectors (4-hole pattern):
Here is a pic of the Factory 550cc Bosch Injectors (6-hole pattern) that Mynes has been using and selling:
Side-by-Side comparison between the 450cc (yellow) and the OE 550cc (Green):
These are the Bosch 550cc 6-hole injectors that we've been using on our testing. These are the EV14 connectors so we need to use an adapter to fit the EV1 on the Mini Harness. The injectors fit perfectly, and the adapters raises the profile of the connector but it still fits fine underneath the factory IC. We sell these for $300.00 shipped for the CONTI-USA.
Wow! Thanks for the very concise reply Mike. I think I'll steer clear of the eBay injectors at this time.
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Hey mike, you have me very interested in these 550cc injectors but would they be functional on a stock tune, without any idleing problems. Also what is the difference between the 550cc Bosch injectors you are talking about and ones inside of this link?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Bosch...mZ350184768130
Also when will your remote tune be up and running and how much?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Bosch...mZ350184768130
Also when will your remote tune be up and running and how much?
Hey mike, you have me very interested in these 550cc injectors but would they be functional on a stock tune, without any idleing problems. Also what is the difference between the 550cc Bosch injectors you are talking about and ones inside of this link?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Bosch...mZ350184768130
Also when will your remote tune be up and running and how much?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Bosch...mZ350184768130
Also when will your remote tune be up and running and how much?
Remote tuning sw should be out by Mid-April, price TBD.
Bosch 550cc: must be tuned in order for them to function properly in your MINI. Your car will have servere idling problems w/o the proper tune.
The-Only-One: If the OE JCW are only $250, it doesn't make sense to go with the drilled out alternative. In addition, the Bosch 550cc are only $300 for the set with connectors
just my 2 cents. Cheers.
Last edited by Mike@Mynes; Aug 4, 2009 at 01:39 PM. Reason: s/p error :D
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So here is a question that might already be answered. I am running the Mini Mania 380s and they have a 4 hole design. Is there a pro or con to using this design or are the duel nozzels on the JCWs better?
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