Drivetrain RMW shorty code P0036
hmmm....if I were a successful vendor...i'd put my customers first, cos in this business, if your customers are happy, your on top on the world...and if customers turn on you, then your history...
and I strongly believe, in any business you need to keep your reputation and the only way to do this is by make your customers happy...
and I strongly believe, in any business you need to keep your reputation and the only way to do this is by make your customers happy...
As a vendor you have to accept that your not going to satisfy everyone either. Its impossible... ez1putt is one of the people that will never be satisfied with anything RMW decides to do. He's offered this guy options and everyone of them doesn't work for one reason or another.
In the end, all Jan can do is try and try his best. If thats not good enough for someone then both will have to take their losses.
I proved your a liar and that Jan DID answer you
Keep talking tough forum warrior
Yeap, Intense I agree with you too...but I think RMW should consider ez1putt's proposal. Making 1 customer happy will bury the hatchet and keep RMW's repo.
But if RMW keeps quiet..this may be a long process of sadness and despair for all parties involved.
But if RMW keeps quiet..this may be a long process of sadness and despair for all parties involved.
Throwing a tantrum on a online forum like a baby certainly should help things tho
Again Ez1putt, I suggest for your emissions test to swap the RMW header out with a stocker(or Mynes if you fancy) then deal with RMW. Mynes and/or their customers must have a few stockers kicking around. It's early in the morning; all you need is a few hand tools and 2 jack stands. Good luck to you Ez1putt!
Jeremy
Jeremy
EZ1put,
I can appreciate you frustration and just want out but to be fair several options were presented. I understand that they are not ideal from your perspective but an effort was made by RMW. You stated you like the header, its just the code issues and the cause /solution has been identified.
In my mind, Jan should just send you out a new CAT and have a local mechanic swap it out or send it back and let Jan swap it out. If he sends you out the replacement you will have minimal down time. Appreciate that RMW is not around the corner, if he was the part would already have been swapped out.
Regardless of what you two settle on there will be some additional out of pocket (from both parties), its not intended but it happens sometimes - its part of the world of MODing.
I can appreciate you frustration and just want out but to be fair several options were presented. I understand that they are not ideal from your perspective but an effort was made by RMW. You stated you like the header, its just the code issues and the cause /solution has been identified.
In my mind, Jan should just send you out a new CAT and have a local mechanic swap it out or send it back and let Jan swap it out. If he sends you out the replacement you will have minimal down time. Appreciate that RMW is not around the corner, if he was the part would already have been swapped out.
Regardless of what you two settle on there will be some additional out of pocket (from both parties), its not intended but it happens sometimes - its part of the world of MODing.
Well - to bring this thread back to it's intent and away from the whining.
I had the header for a little over 2 months and never had an SES light or code. After being tuned by Jan the car did finally throw the SES light. I spoke with Jan and he told me to install the J-bung. This was done and the light has gone away. Problem solved.
I had the header for a little over 2 months and never had an SES light or code. After being tuned by Jan the car did finally throw the SES light. I spoke with Jan and he told me to install the J-bung. This was done and the light has gone away. Problem solved.
Last edited by WolfGTI; Apr 18, 2009 at 07:31 PM.
Thanks Bahambart it all going to be fine in the end I know it will. Wolf, I'm glad that you don't have a light anymore thats great installing the bung solved it wonderful, mine already has the bung on it and is still throwing codes so a cat replacement seems to be the fix.
Lesson to be learned? Some folks shouldn't mess around with the aftermarket and leave their cars stock!
Nothing finer then stock parts and dealership service to insure everything stays "by the book".
Otherwise you take your chances.
Just part of the making aftermarket adjustments!
Nothing finer then stock parts and dealership service to insure everything stays "by the book".
Otherwise you take your chances.
Just part of the making aftermarket adjustments!
Lesson to be learned? Some folks shouldn't mess around with the aftermarket and leave their cars stock!
Nothing finer then stock parts and dealership service to insure everything stays "by the book".
Otherwise you take your chances.
Just part of the making aftermarket adjustments!
Nothing finer then stock parts and dealership service to insure everything stays "by the book".
Otherwise you take your chances.
Just part of the making aftermarket adjustments!
Honestly, no. If you want large company backed, tried and trued parts with little/no room for issues, stick with JCW installed parts, etc.
Jan and RMW is a much smaller, bleeding edge, specialty/boutique tuner who is responsible for bringing overseas parts to the hands of our Mini market, or pushing the edge with stuff that very few (if anyone) else is doing. Who else has big bore/long stroke kits for our 1.6? There will always be a price to pay for going faster, harder, stronger, etc for any car, especially one as small as the Mini. I wonder how many of you are first experiencing aftermarket go-fast parts for your cars with the Mini? Like most things that are fairly new, problems will crop up. Sounds like a batch of cats were bad/inconsistent with Magnaflow. Sounds like Jan will be switching over for future models. Sounds like if folks are still having issues with their SES lights/etc he'll make it right. Might not be the easiest thing to deal with, but what are we really talking about here? A check engine light??? Maybe you should ask yourself if swapping parts is really in your best interest, especially if you decide to sell your factory take-offs!
Jan and RMW is a much smaller, bleeding edge, specialty/boutique tuner who is responsible for bringing overseas parts to the hands of our Mini market, or pushing the edge with stuff that very few (if anyone) else is doing. Who else has big bore/long stroke kits for our 1.6? There will always be a price to pay for going faster, harder, stronger, etc for any car, especially one as small as the Mini. I wonder how many of you are first experiencing aftermarket go-fast parts for your cars with the Mini? Like most things that are fairly new, problems will crop up. Sounds like a batch of cats were bad/inconsistent with Magnaflow. Sounds like Jan will be switching over for future models. Sounds like if folks are still having issues with their SES lights/etc he'll make it right. Might not be the easiest thing to deal with, but what are we really talking about here? A check engine light??? Maybe you should ask yourself if swapping parts is really in your best interest, especially if you decide to sell your factory take-offs!
I agree with you on most parts BUT:
- JCW parts are bloody expensive and not worth it if you ask me...(except the JCW intake)
- The aftermarket is the gateway of speed for most of us
p.s. I gained 50bhp already (without a tune) by installing aftermarket stuff..BUT I havent sold my factory take-offs....just in case anything happens to my aftermarket beauties
- JCW parts are bloody expensive and not worth it if you ask me...(except the JCW intake)
- The aftermarket is the gateway of speed for most of us
p.s. I gained 50bhp already (without a tune) by installing aftermarket stuff..BUT I havent sold my factory take-offs....just in case anything happens to my aftermarket beauties
I agree with MiniJoe, and do understand your point Nazrin. It's cheaper and more benefical to go an aftermarket route vs factory JCW. The op has been complaining for no reason and has made a big deal out of a code. In my opinion, someone that is buying headers for his cars and more parts should not complain about a check engine light. On the other hand, like someone mentioned, Jan did give him 3 options I belive. So he shouldn't be making it a big deal about it unless Jan has refused to do ANYTHING for him. Stop your whining and just be happy with one of the 3 or however many options there were or just sell the header for a good used price and buy whatever you want. Asking for a full price back is just insane.
Dont know coouuper s....this is a hard one..I can understand Jan's and ez1's points of view...but this wont end unless Jan gives him a refund...
ez1's not happy by Jan's promises that the header's will be fixed. He even got the J-Bung dat promises to end the light fiasco..BUT the problem still stands....So, ez1 is right to be pissed off..I think he felt dat he's been cheated....
as for me, I wouldnt mind if the lights came on, heck Ive got 3 different engine lights flashing on my E46 330i (due to a defective sensor unit).
ez1's not happy by Jan's promises that the header's will be fixed. He even got the J-Bung dat promises to end the light fiasco..BUT the problem still stands....So, ez1 is right to be pissed off..I think he felt dat he's been cheated....
as for me, I wouldnt mind if the lights came on, heck Ive got 3 different engine lights flashing on my E46 330i (due to a defective sensor unit).
When I purchased my Mini, i ordered it with the JCW package to take advantage of the warranty, as I was not yet convinced about the the aftermarket route, never having modded a car before. I bought performance w/ peace of mind. After owning the car for 3 years, and learning more, i've done a couple mods. My header threw a code about 5 weeks into ownership. RMW and Grassroots Garage were very helpful and I got the bung installed, light is out...hopefully for good.
Last edited by davisflyer; Apr 18, 2009 at 10:58 PM.
Lesson to be learned? Some folks shouldn't mess around with the aftermarket and leave their cars stock!
Nothing finer then stock parts and dealership service to insure everything stays "by the book".
Otherwise you take your chances.
Just part of the making aftermarket adjustments!
Nothing finer then stock parts and dealership service to insure everything stays "by the book".
Otherwise you take your chances.
Just part of the making aftermarket adjustments!
And that's fine, too each his own.
If you think a 40hp bump over the stock MCS is under-performing w/ full factory warranty, you have the choice of the aftermarket, which by the way is often full of empty promises and often leads to warranty claim problems. Not everyone has your comfort level with the aftermarket. As I said, I've had to tip-toe into it.
but I see your level of reasoning....
not for nothing...this is getting out of hand now. My GF works for Patek Phillippe watches and even they won't cover shipping when it comes to warranty claims on their products. and their stuff starts at like $15k. not saying that is right or anything but i really think the OP is asking for a little too much now.



