You're kidding right. 380's have made up to 240whp before. Plus you're blowing Meth for even more fuel.
The bottom line is for all of the datalogging and dyno testing, with Thumpers head and your magical 24hp Meth tune you made 204hp peak. This isn't 2003, you're going to need to bring a lot more than that.

 

D-MAN
Why does your car drop off at 6 grand? Wouldn't you want your tune to go up the full rpm range? Just asking.

 

Don't you really mean when they weren't tuned right?

 

But you forget bighowe that the dyno is irrelevant, its the acceleration that the vehicle performs that matters.

If D-Man can run a 14 sec 30-130 and you can only run a 15 sec 30-130 and you both weigh the same guess who is making the most power

So its irrelevant what car is making what in what country, 2000-7000 in 3rd is a better way or 30-90 in 3rd. You must have that data.

 

I don't know why I am even bothering but...if you had read the entire post on minitorque you would understand!
My car was putting out around 220whp on a low reading Aussie dyno before the meth tune.
The shop then gets a new 4WD dyno that reads alot lower. On this dyno the same car puts out 180hp without the mwth tune. But don't let the truth get in the way of a good story
All that matters are the gains.
Gain with head + Haltech tune =58hp
Gain with meth +meth tune = 24hp
You can't compare different dyno runs I thought you of all people would understand that.

 

The shop has actually shown that the duty cycle of the injectors are been maxed out up top - that is why. Aussie dyno read alot lower than American dynos so....a 240hp on a USA dyno is not a 240hp on an Aussie dyno

 

Thanks for the physics lesson Paul, that had eluded me to this point. It's all clear now.

 

I bet you I can hit the urinal from 8ft away!

Why do you guys have to come into Jan's posts and ruin them. Seriously, take it somewhere else this is getting old.

 

I do understand it, but whe you are showing dynos with whacked tunes over 6000rpm, and talk on the other forums about your car throwing codes and going into limp mode.............

 

Please don't misquote - the car has never gone into limp mode when driving.
That occurred when the timing was advanced too far when dyno tuning- get it right

 

Glad I could help you out there big howe ROTFLMAO

You got admit, kinda funny seeing as you've probably forgotten more than I know about physics.

But your two dyno sheets bring all your R&D into dispute, which is a shame because I'm sure you've been through hell and back testing this stuff.

And for the life of me I dont understand why Jan would post that example, I personally would of held back, change the combo back to the 259 example then run the meth re tuned and then posted that up.

But I would still like to see some acceleration gains with and without the system.

 

If we all sat back and believed what we read and not have competion between us then a 200whp MINI would still be the norm I could go on and on but there's no point.............

 

When was never stated, but thanks for letting us know how the Haltech responds during tuning.

 

OK, third time Paul, this is getting old. Numerous changes are done to the car at once. Not ideal but dyno budgets aren't unlimited. And by your own rhetoric, dynos don't matter right? Why do you care so much about different dyno sessions if it's irrelevant to you?
Honestly, go ahead and try to dig up info on how to further your business as a non paying vendor, but you won't get it from me.

 

But I would of thought someone who is anaylitical like your goodself would share loads of data with the people of NAM.

We share as much as we can with the community off what we acheive whether it be dyno numbers dragstrip times 30-70s 30 -130s road course times etc etc but then all we do is test and re test as we are truly independant as we dont make anything but do advise customers what combo of parts to go for.

Some of our customers make there own decisons and sometimes they get it right and then sometimes they buy parts and they just dont work.

I dont get the non paying vendor bit as I cant see anyone shipping there car from the USA to me to work on even though the pound has dropped like a stone

 

I do share with the community, most of the time everyone has their own ideas. Look at why Doc O doesn't post here any more. You get tired of fighting the battles. I have made many, many suggestions to the folks on your forum on what issues you may have and get attacked by many including yourself. It's not just me, threre are a couple of other people on minitorque and some here that are more than helpful and know some of the secrets, no one listens.
I of all folks don't know everything, but I'm sure not going to spend thousands on DAQ and testing and take crap from people while giving it away for free.

 

Is all this stupid arguing the reason they say meth is bad for you?

 

What you are witnessing is this
People want the secret recipe without wanting to pay for it
If they can do better post it up but sitting back without testing the kits like we have and running on about is just ignorant

 

So what mods does this car have?

 

Why don't you ask your friend Paul, apparently he has the CIA files on all of my dyno runs and information.
This really is getting tiring with you Brits.

 

It's a straightforward question.

 

ROFLMAO.... Dude you just said earlier that all RMW junkies think that Jan is the only one that can tune a mini. Look what you posted, that confirms to me that tuners in Australia can't tune a mini. Never have, never will. Plus it is a Haltech. They just aren't dedicated to it like jan is. All jan does is tune mini's, if he doesn't know how to do it no one can!! When I get all of the RMW's gear into my car why don't you come up here when he is tuning it and then you can see for yourself what a true tuner can do with the STOCK ECU

 

I'm afraid to say that you're the one thats been preaching to us that we're not doing it right and have the wrong components on the car.

But we always say and list what components we have.

The thing is that its lost power evenly as well, we know in Sept you had 16.2psi of boost from your datalog.

Why stop the dyno run at 7k when your engine goes to 7600, what happens after 7k ?

If you need any more dyno time I dont mind paying for some to help out.

 

What components are fitted to this one ? what rpm does the meth come on at ?

 

I'll just come out and say what everyone is thinking.

Are you fudging the numbers Jan?