well, ive been searching on information and i got a lot of information saying this intake is better than that or that other one is too loud etc. blah blah blah.

what do you think is the best intake header exaust set up regardless of money?

right now im looking at the pipercross viper intake superspring header and exaust..

or switch that up with the alta intake instead. i dont know.. what do you think is the best setup regardless of money....

 

The hot setup is an ALTA intake, London Stainless header, and Magnaflow exhaust. If you need to trim the budget a bit, get the Milltek header instead. The ALTA intake and Magnaflow are already great price points, and definitely the highest power gain products in their class.

Good luck,
Cheers,
Ryan

 

The Milltek and the London Stainless are exactly the same... manufactured by the same company.


I have a K&N, London Stainless, and I debating wheter or not to put my Helix exhaust back on. I put a Helix on my G-Ma's and she loves it. Not as loud as I remembered.

 

>>well, ive been searching on information and i got a lot of information saying this intake is better than that or that other one is too loud etc. blah blah blah.
>>
>>what do you think is the best intake header exaust set up regardless of money?
>>
>>right now im looking at the pipercross viper intake superspring header and exaust..
>>
>>or switch that up with the alta intake instead. i dont know.. what do you think is the best setup regardless of money....
Which MINI is this for?
MC 5 speed
MC with CVT
or MCS???

Each has slightly different intake options.
All can fit London Stainless/Milltek exhaust header

 

mcs of course

 

>>mcs of course
For MCS
Intake- Alta with hose (If on a budget-pilo intake)
Exhaust Header- London Stainless/Milltek (If on a budget- mini mania with sport cat or supersprint)
Cat back Exhaust- UUC or Borla Racing/Sport (If on a budget-Magnaflow)

You can mix and match any of these and it is pretty close. I don't think you will be able to tell the difference much.
looks are a little different.
Loudest setup is Mini mania or supersprint header with NO sport cat and Magnaflow or Borla Racing exhaust

Have fun. Want details- talk to RandyBMC.

 

here's a picture of the Milltek header and exhaust system
http://www.stratmosphere.com/milltek_mini.htm



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I agree with Minihune.... I got the Borla, Alta will be next and then header...

 

i have the pipercross and remus exhaust. Is the header a pain in the *** to put on? I should be getting some springs and such put on soon, and I was curious whether I should go the route of a new header.

Danny

 

SpoMini and minihune,

I remember reading Randy's comments that the London Stainless did not add any appreciable noise. But I think he might have had the magnaflow on at the time. Would you mind giving your impressions of sound quality with the london and if possible, with stock exhaust?

Thanks

Chuck

 

I read a post where someone took the standard header and cut out the restriction and pre-cat, then welded in a pipe to fit. Has anyone dyno'd this set up? How about noise?

 

Regarding Intakes:

Pilo Racing has just performed Dyno Testing at Helix13 down in Philly. They run a Mustang Dynometer, which is a variable load Dyno. The advantage of this is that it will show Horsepower gains during load applications (true to life applications). We recieved a 2.2 HP Gain over stock (Pullied Car) under laod. Previous testing showed 7hp gain on a Dyno Jet Dyno. Eric at Helix said this is the third intake to have actually make HP on their Dyno. The others being Alta and KN.

The big advantage of the Pilo Racing system is the ease of install, and the Super Low Price. It cost 145 + shipping, and now includes a cleaning kit at no extra charge.

Recent tests have actually shown negative pressure when opening up the air to the front cowl when running at high speeds, and no gain at other speeds.

If you have any other questions, please let me know.

Thanks
Dan
Pilo Racing

 

>>SpoMini and minihune,
>>
>>I remember reading Randy's comments that the London Stainless did not add any appreciable noise. But I think he might have had the magnaflow on at the time. Would you mind giving your impressions of sound quality with the london and if possible, with stock exhaust?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Chuck


I'll try to describe the sound, its not a noise or drone but more of a subtle whoosh. I did notice a bit more noise when i put it on after having the Helix but it really made the Helix mellower sounding. I'm not sure if I'm making sense but it really took the rasp out of the Helix.

Butt Dyno said more oomph too.

 

>>i have the pipercross and remus exhaust. Is the header a pain in the *** to put on? I should be getting some springs and such put on soon, and I was curious whether I should go the route of a new header.

The header install is about 90 minutes-Here is the How to:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ic=5610&19
Not too bad.
In your case I would say Springs before Header. Or handling before power.

 

>>SpoMini and minihune,
>>
>>I remember reading Randy's comments that the London Stainless did not add any appreciable noise. But I think he might have had the magnaflow on at the time. Would you mind giving your impressions of sound quality with the london and if possible, with stock exhaust?

I spoke to Randy about the LS header and he told me that the HP was a bit more like 9HP, the noise was about the same or minimally changed compared to the mania header which is louder.

Here is an older thread on headers for good pics and some info-
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...amp;topic=6544
Here's a quote from Randy-
<No I don't have the milltek header - it's a UK thing. It does look remarkably similar to the London Stainless though, <and I would guess the additional cost would rear its ugly head in the form of shipping. I'll try to get in touch with <them.

<The longer primaries should make better top end power, but I could swear that the Mania header makes more top end <power and the London Stainless makes more low end power - weird. I'll let you know for sure when I can get to the <dyno again - we had a little snow here in Denver.
<
<Randy

And for basic background on Headers see
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...amp;topic=7101
and
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...amp;topic=4729

Difference of Milltek with London Stainless-
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...mp;topic=13486

Some info on Headers/supersprint
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...mp;topic=11602
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>>I read a post where someone took the standard header and cut out the restriction and pre-cat, then welded in a pipe to fit. Has anyone dyno'd this set up? How about noise?

I would expect the noise to be rather loud with no sport Cat.
Mini mania dyno about 6 HP or less.

For info on supersprint 4-2-1 header install-
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...amp;topic=9359

 

Thanks for the info Spo and hune. I really like the idea of efficency and reducing back pressure seems like wonderful way to achieve that but I'd rather not have my ears buzzing after every drive. Hence my interest in the header moreso than the exhaust. It seems like there will be some noise difference but it will be hard to gauge my liking until I can hear it first hand.

Chuck

 

>>Thanks for the info Spo and hune. I really like the idea of efficency and reducing back pressure seems like wonderful way to achieve that but I'd rather not have my ears buzzing after every drive. Hence my interest in the header moreso than the exhaust. It seems like there will be some noise difference but it will be hard to gauge my liking until I can hear it first hand.

The best thing is always to hear it first hand. I have heard the Mini Mania header with sport cat with the stock exhaust and it is a little louder and it definitely has more punch to it. In your case a good intake and maybe the Milltek/London stainless header (very little added exhaust noise) would be the best combination. After that, lightweight wheels (16" is the best compromise of weight, handling, looks, design selection, and cost) and suspension upgrades (lowered springs or rear swaybar) are common upgrades and help to balance the power upgrades.

 

So any chance of a reduced price cleaning kit for those of us who've recently purchased an intake from you, Dan?