You guys sound like my two boys and there buddy's arguing over who's the fastest guy on a bike .

Paul,

I truly find your idea that the only way to test and get real data on parts or engine power is to run down the 1/4 mile interesting. So far this weekend I've seen Nascar, Rolex Sports Cars, AMA Superbikes, Indy Cars, Moto GP and last weeks Formula One. I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure not one team from any of these disciplines use the strip to test their engines or parts.

But man I would pay to see any of them go down the strip .


Longboard

 

not going to happen with the 45
After dynoing on dynapacks across the country most read like Churchs
The difference is his fan setup on the big dyno

 

C16 won't allow you to increase timing enough for a few more ponies?

 

a few ponies is a long way from 300whp

the guys at eaton couldn't even believe we have been making 250whp all over the country..... Sean Church said 200whp on the old honda's with the M45 barely made over 200whp

It's a testament to the headwork, cam/header combo

 

Well I'm sorry Longboard but you are wrong, Benetton used Santa Pod on quite a few occasions in a year for testing, mainly starts, tyre changes etc.

We did have a Formula 1 car go up the strip but I cant remember what vintage it was, I think it run low 9s.

I had the good fortune that my racing partner in the 90s was the boss of the composite shop at Benetton, so we had 24hr 7 days a week access.

The funniest thing was him showing me his top secret project, a carbon fibre wishbone. I remember him having to make 6 of them for destruction test to make sure they could cope with the load etc etc, I rember saying what a waste of time that was because there's no way there going to pass

Maybe I've worded it wrongly, dyno and drag racing is proberly the easiest form of motorsport that everyone has access too, after being on a dyno you lot can pop to your nearest strip for Fri night test and tune and have a blast and make some ricers scratch there heads

My goal is still a 10 sec daily Mini that goes round corners as well

 

I remember watching an NHRA National event years ago and they compared other forms of racing to drag racing. Using vehicle weight, HP, acceleration and all that good stuff, I remember hearing that an F1 car should run a mid to high 9.

 

And Friday we were not using the big fan.

 

Slower than Hubie's Mini

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDfSQ...eature=related

 

Hey Jan, the Honda engineers want to talk to you about their next gen S2000 engine! ;-)

I see the path the to power is now clearly defined. Congrats to all.

 

You're talkin' about the stock cam right.

 

He has to be! Jan's cam doesn't make power!

 

Hey Longboard at Mini In The Park we actually had 26 New MINI's hit the strip, thats not including mine.

 

is this where everyone goes........ let's stop road racing and go dragging because that is what the MINI is for?

some day you will get it.... maybe

 

nahhh Its like me telling people That my big block vette is for road racing.
People fail to read history, Minis at Rallys... and vettes at lemans
what was it jan like 22mph faster than the fastest ferrari...

 

I've done more track days than you have this year and obviously been up the strip more times this year than in your life

(I've had this year off as well)

 

The best is yet to come, 21st September Paul is taking on a 391BHP (don't know what it is at the wheels)Mini at Santa Pod raceway in little red

 

so are you telling me you can beat me around the track?
I have beaten many guys with years of experience so you saying you have been to the track does it really mean anything?

 

I do the odd bit of drag racing, once so far this year, and was happy to take 3rd place at Mini Showdown. Also, not one of Paul customers

I like the drag racing for the banter, but the racing itself is a bit boring.

Gimme a track day any day of the week. Shame I don't have many more booked this year, only the end of September, October and November. Probably all in the wet too.

Car has to be able to drive me there, drive me back, let me take the GF out for dinner (or my mum), and beat that overpriced BMW or boy racer off the lights.

I think if any of the tuners made focused cars, they would loose broad appeal to many people.

Corners are where the fun is.

 

I do look forward to meeting Paul on a proper track one day, and finding how my car measures up to his, when mine isn't as stripped out, light or as high powered.

 

Ask Dave Ade or Crofty every time Lee eventually went past it the old problem reared its ugly head again.

 

Not really, as i know I cant drive

 

Yup, I think we should run a book to see what nitrous jet size its going to need

 

why don't you guys start a drag racing thread.... this isn't what this thread is about

 

I have a feeling that will no longer be a problem.... Still surprised he didnt get it sorted sooner.

You coming to Castle Combe Paul? People have times for that track for comparison.

 

They should start one but what is there to talk about really. You sit around all day and get to run your car a couple times for what??? 12-13 seconds. Then you get to brag that their car was fast for......... 12-13 seconds .

This thread died the moment you wouldn't tell people how you made that power .

Oh Ya, I'm gone the rest of this week. Come get my car and tune the rest.

LB