Drivetrain E3 Spark Plugs
E3 Spark Plugs
Does anyone have any info on these Spark Plugs? I saw Horsepower TV compare these on an engine dyno, they claimed a 5.5hp increase and used LESS fuel, granted this was on a built 383 na engine. I was just wondering if anybody has played with these yet.
Here is the link for the dyno test http://www.e3sparkplugs.com/video.htm
Dave
Here is the link for the dyno test http://www.e3sparkplugs.com/video.htm
Dave
itd be great if it was true. I just have a hard time believing shows like this. A couple advertisers wave some money in their faces and i'm sure they'll make a lot of claims that are exactly 100% accurate.
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There's a company called Pulstar that makes plugs with similar claims. I heard they were dyno-ing cars with and without their plugs locally, so I offered my car. Got no response, but they claimed 5HP gain for a Prius. Who GaS?
I'm dubious...
I'm dubious...
I saw the Horsepower TV feature of the E3 spark plugs and it peaked my interest as well. If I hadn't just put new spark plugs in, I think I'd give them a try.
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I installed the E3.56's along with new MSD wires and coil a week ago. The plugs that came out were NGK Iridium ZFR7FIX-11's. Over all the car is pulling harder but it should with the combination of new parts. I doubt the claim of 5 hp gain, at least on our engines however after 2 tanks of gas my mpg average has gone up about 2.3 mpg. Will that hold up over time? I don't know. I drive between 500 and 700 miles a week on average and it was a short week. Time will tell.
Jeremy, good point:
1. The 'claim' is 5 or 5.5 hp, was it really that much?
2. That engine, a 383 has about 3.83X the displacement of ours.
3. Or maybe it would be more accurate to think of this in terms of the # of plugs, 8 vs 4, or 2X
Either way only the dyno can provide the answers. Does anyone have any dyno time where they could swap in some E3s on an additional run after the tuning is complete?
We need applicable data from a trusted source.
1. The 'claim' is 5 or 5.5 hp, was it really that much?
2. That engine, a 383 has about 3.83X the displacement of ours.
3. Or maybe it would be more accurate to think of this in terms of the # of plugs, 8 vs 4, or 2X
Either way only the dyno can provide the answers. Does anyone have any dyno time where they could swap in some E3s on an additional run after the tuning is complete?
We need applicable data from a trusted source.
I don't buy it...
Either you have enough spark, or you don't
Either you have the right temp plugs, or you don't
Either your plugs are relatively new, or they aren't
If you meet the criteria above, then you're not gonna get more power or fuel efficiency from some "magic" plug... IMHO
Either you have enough spark, or you don't
Either you have the right temp plugs, or you don't
Either your plugs are relatively new, or they aren't
If you meet the criteria above, then you're not gonna get more power or fuel efficiency from some "magic" plug... IMHO
I think a good quality plug will make some difference by allowing an engine to reach it's maximum potential. If not, everyone would run champion plugs and save some money. I don't think it will increase HP however it may help increase mileage because I won't be at WOT as long each time I leave the light. (Yea right, lol)
The notion of more power and better mileage from a super spark-plug seems to come around again about every ten years.
Not surprisingly, not even one of these "new technology" spark plugs has ever been picked up by any auto manufacturer, and none of the companies that bring these products to market seems to have lasted more than a few years.
Ya think maybe there's a reason for that?
Not surprisingly, not even one of these "new technology" spark plugs has ever been picked up by any auto manufacturer, and none of the companies that bring these products to market seems to have lasted more than a few years.
Ya think maybe there's a reason for that?
Last edited by OldRick; Jul 6, 2008 at 10:58 AM.
Well I thought it was true as well so I put a set of e3's into my R50 about 5 weeks ago. At first I thought I saw a gain of almost 3 to 4 mpg but a few weeks later and a few tanks later, it was down 3 mpg from what I was getting with my stock NGK's. So my point is do NOT buy these, they are junk. To the power item, I did not notice anything at all so I doubt even that.
E3 are junk
Well I thought it was true as well so I put a set of e3's into my R50 about 5 weeks ago. At first I thought I saw a gain of almost 3 to 4 mpg but a few weeks later and a few tanks later, it was down 3 mpg from what I was getting with my stock NGK's. So my point is do NOT buy these, they are junk. To the power item, I did not notice anything at all so I doubt even that.
I gave in to media hype and put these on my gf's '05 MC. 2 weeks of driving my MPG went DOWN from 31.7 to 29.4. I'm getting them replaced with the NGK's soon.
The notion of more power and better mileage from a super spark-plug seems to come around again about every ten years.
Not surprisingly, not even one of these "new technology" spark plugs has ever been picked up by any auto manufacturer, and none of the companies that bring these products to market seems to have lasted more than a few years.
Ya think maybe there's a reason for that?
Not surprisingly, not even one of these "new technology" spark plugs has ever been picked up by any auto manufacturer, and none of the companies that bring these products to market seems to have lasted more than a few years.
Ya think maybe there's a reason for that?
Some people just want to believe.
E3 plugs for '05 Cooper
Ok, so I got E3 Spark Plugs E3.56 for my gf cooper. Had them on for about 3 weeks. The mileage dropped down from 31.7 to (as of tonight) 29.4.
I just replaced them with the OEM spec (I believe) NGK BKR6EQUP.
I'm not liking the condition of the 3-week-old E3 Spark Plugs that I removed. I'm not sure what are these blister marks, but I'm pretty sure it's not normal. Supposed to be brownish deposit on the plugs. Hopefully no real harm done to the rest of the combustion chamber

I just replaced them with the OEM spec (I believe) NGK BKR6EQUP.
I'm not liking the condition of the 3-week-old E3 Spark Plugs that I removed. I'm not sure what are these blister marks, but I'm pretty sure it's not normal. Supposed to be brownish deposit on the plugs. Hopefully no real harm done to the rest of the combustion chamber


Ok, so I got E3 Spark Plugs E3.56 for my gf cooper. Had them on for about 3 weeks. The mileage dropped down from 31.7 to (as of tonight) 29.4.
I just replaced them with the OEM spec (I believe) NGK BKR6EQUP.
I'm not liking the condition of the 3-week-old E3 Spark Plugs that I removed. I'm not sure what are these blister marks, but I'm pretty sure it's not normal. Supposed to be brownish deposit on the plugs. Hopefully no real harm done to the rest of the combustion chamber


I just replaced them with the OEM spec (I believe) NGK BKR6EQUP.
I'm not liking the condition of the 3-week-old E3 Spark Plugs that I removed. I'm not sure what are these blister marks, but I'm pretty sure it's not normal. Supposed to be brownish deposit on the plugs. Hopefully no real harm done to the rest of the combustion chamber



How would changing spark plugs alone create a 'lean' condition? Doesn't make sense. Unless the plugs are of incorrect heat range, that would cause the above 'blister'?
The OEM plugs I took out have brownish lightly deposited on the ground. Looks pretty normal after 38k miles. So it wasn't running lean before the plug replacement.
The OEM plugs I took out have brownish lightly deposited on the ground. Looks pretty normal after 38k miles. So it wasn't running lean before the plug replacement.
How would changing spark plugs alone create a 'lean' condition? Doesn't make sense. Unless the plugs are of incorrect heat range, that would cause the above 'blister'?
The OEM plugs I took out have brownish lightly deposited on the ground. Looks pretty normal after 38k miles. So it wasn't running lean before the plug replacement.
The OEM plugs I took out have brownish lightly deposited on the ground. Looks pretty normal after 38k miles. So it wasn't running lean before the plug replacement.
that indicates your about to hole a piston. Why would changing plugs change the mixture??? It sure shouldn't.





