Drivetrain Revolution Mini Works New Header for standard catbacks
Posted above some info on that...
have NO idea
it's built better than every other header out there except my race header so who knows
the fabricator who works for me has 40yrs of experience building headers and we used some of our technology from the race header into a shortened less expensive header but you still get"
1 5/8" primaries that match our Big Valve head (no other header matches our ports right out of the box)
304 stainless mandrel bent tubing
custom built collector with similar technology as the race header
high flow cat

Think I seen my name on one of them
When is the first one coming to the UK so 1320 can do back to back tests against the Janspeed?
In one of my earlier posts Jan I asked if I got a W2A could my redline be upped to 8k as I am on 15%?
When is the first one coming to the UK so 1320 can do back to back tests against the Janspeed?
In one of my earlier posts Jan I asked if I got a W2A could my redline be upped to 8k as I am on 15%?
yes no problem
We are not sure if the #2 pipe will hit on your steering column since you guys drive on the wrong side of the road
the car will need to be retuned to match the header
we really don't build stuff as bolt ons, we build systems
Well you could send a header over for me to test
We are in the minority with driving on the left side of the road so I can't really argue there but your wrong
Video Clips! Sorry for the bad quality. I didn't have any way to mount the camera and driving while holding a camera is somewhat difficult. I'm getting a camera mount in a few days, so I'll shoot some more videos. Also, my car is VERY bumpy (Coilovers set pretty stiff on low profile extreme performance Summer tires), so all the rattles and bumps sort of add to the audio track.
I'll try to get a few drive by shots at some point. FWIW, point and shoot digital camera's don't do this exhaust justice.
2nd Gear Pull, 4500-7200 RPM's. THIS is why you don't need an intercooler for street driving! If youtube's quality wasn't so bad you could see that the IAT's peak at 96 for about 5 seconds, then drop to 91, then 85, all within about 15 seconds of redlining (While still holding the car at about 6000 RPM's).
Driveway Revving, the last rev was up to about 6000 RPM's
Dyno Pull
4th Gear 3000-5500 RPM pull, 35-60 MPH
Cruising in 5th, 30-40 MPH, then slow down to about 10.
I'll try to get a few drive by shots at some point. FWIW, point and shoot digital camera's don't do this exhaust justice.

2nd Gear Pull, 4500-7200 RPM's. THIS is why you don't need an intercooler for street driving! If youtube's quality wasn't so bad you could see that the IAT's peak at 96 for about 5 seconds, then drop to 91, then 85, all within about 15 seconds of redlining (While still holding the car at about 6000 RPM's).
Driveway Revving, the last rev was up to about 6000 RPM's
Dyno Pull
4th Gear 3000-5500 RPM pull, 35-60 MPH
Cruising in 5th, 30-40 MPH, then slow down to about 10.
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Video Clips! Sorry for the bad quality. I didn't have any way to mount the camera and driving while holding a camera is somewhat difficult. I'm getting a camera mount in a few days, so I'll shoot some more videos. Also, my car is VERY bumpy (Coilovers set pretty stiff on low profile extreme performance Summer tires), so all the rattles and bumps sort of add to the audio track.
I'll try to get a few drive by shots at some point. FWIW, point and shoot digital camera's don't do this exhaust justice.
2nd Gear Pull, 4500-7200 RPM's. THIS is why you don't need an intercooler for street driving! If youtube's quality wasn't so bad you could see that the IAT's peak at 96 for about 5 seconds, then drop to 91, then 85, all within about 15 seconds of redlining (While still holding the car at about 6000 RPM's).
4th Gear 3000-5500 RPM pull, 35-60 MPH
Cruising in 5th, 30-40 MPH, then slow down to about 10.
2 more videos still processing for upload. I'll link them when they go live.
I'll try to get a few drive by shots at some point. FWIW, point and shoot digital camera's don't do this exhaust justice.

2nd Gear Pull, 4500-7200 RPM's. THIS is why you don't need an intercooler for street driving! If youtube's quality wasn't so bad you could see that the IAT's peak at 96 for about 5 seconds, then drop to 91, then 85, all within about 15 seconds of redlining (While still holding the car at about 6000 RPM's).
4th Gear 3000-5500 RPM pull, 35-60 MPH
Cruising in 5th, 30-40 MPH, then slow down to about 10.
2 more videos still processing for upload. I'll link them when they go live.
It doesn't sound that loud to be honest I'd say my JCW and Janspeed with Jans head was as loud (don't know why my JCW was sooooo loud
)
.At 4000 RPM's or so (Cruising at 80 mph) if you're going uphill, loading the engine, you have to talk pretty loud to be heard over the exhaust. It's a race header, if all you do is drive on the street it's overkill.
Posted another video. Youtube is taking forever for these last few.
The full RMW exhaust is a system, the header + other random exhausts is a mish mash of parts. I'd go with the full system.
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Based on the price of materials that I was given when picking up the stainless steel. Every part we use is stainless, no skimping on flanges etc and the cat's went up another 15% across the board + a surcharge they are asking for
we are going to have to come in at $850 which is still a great buy for what you are getting. All of our steel comes from the good ol USA
. We are working hard to keep American's working
.... Maybe the Greecian's will help tooFor those that have sent deposits I will be honoring a $799+ shipping price so for those that sent money.... congrats you saved $51
I don't know, not sure of anyone who has created a "silent" exhaust yet
Mine are far from silent, but on wide open throttle there isn't one that sounds that good
"2b) options for test pipe? (for track use only of course) I know people won't believe this but our dyno testing has shown a loss of torque without the cat
there is a happy medium for producing big torque and we have found it with our exhaust/cam/head systems. We have not seen one car break 200ft lbs of torque anywhere else
thanks"
Funny you mention that, I have said this for years after learning this from Gale Banks in the late 80's early 90's. In testing he often found that a high flow cat would cause no more than half a pound of back pressure at certain points in the exhaust stream but that the cat kept the exhaust gases hotter and therefore the gas velocity was greater. The cars (twin turbo) would actually loose hp with out the cat when a straight pipe was used.
there is a happy medium for producing big torque and we have found it with our exhaust/cam/head systems. We have not seen one car break 200ft lbs of torque anywhere else
thanks"
Funny you mention that, I have said this for years after learning this from Gale Banks in the late 80's early 90's. In testing he often found that a high flow cat would cause no more than half a pound of back pressure at certain points in the exhaust stream but that the cat kept the exhaust gases hotter and therefore the gas velocity was greater. The cars (twin turbo) would actually loose hp with out the cat when a straight pipe was used.
"2b) options for test pipe? (for track use only of course) I know people won't believe this but our dyno testing has shown a loss of torque without the cat
there is a happy medium for producing big torque and we have found it with our exhaust/cam/head systems. We have not seen one car break 200ft lbs of torque anywhere else
thanks"
Funny you mention that, I have said this for years after learning this from Gale Banks in the late 80's early 90's. In testing he often found that a high flow cat would cause no more than half a pound of back pressure at certain points in the exhaust stream but that the cat kept the exhaust gases hotter and therefore the gas velocity was greater. The cars (twin turbo) would actually loose hp with out the cat when a straight pipe was used.
there is a happy medium for producing big torque and we have found it with our exhaust/cam/head systems. We have not seen one car break 200ft lbs of torque anywhere else
thanks"
Funny you mention that, I have said this for years after learning this from Gale Banks in the late 80's early 90's. In testing he often found that a high flow cat would cause no more than half a pound of back pressure at certain points in the exhaust stream but that the cat kept the exhaust gases hotter and therefore the gas velocity was greater. The cars (twin turbo) would actually loose hp with out the cat when a straight pipe was used.
I'm going to try to do some videos later of 30-70 runs, and maybe 5-60. 0-60 is hard to do because there's so much wheel spin, and I don't wanna light up half a city block in my neighborhood, too many police.
I actually get decent traction with these tires! They spin like crazy, but they still hook decently.
5-65 or so (Overshot 60...
)
30-70 (2nd gear then 3rd)
My NavAlert read 69 mph GPS verified in 2nd, but it's close enough. The 3rd gear pull was to 71-72 before I let off.
My stopwatch shows just under 4 seconds for the 2nd gear 30-70 pull. 3.9 seconds or so...
. I don't have the equipment to properly measure it, and my reaction time probably accounts for .1-.3 seconds, so suffice to say, it's pulling 30-70's in the low 4 second range
.
I measured 0-60 (I did try it, although I realized when I stopped for gas that it didn't get recorded, instead it took a picture
) at just over 5 seconds. If I could put the power down in 1st instead of spinning tires I could probably break 5 seconds.
5-65 or so (Overshot 60...
)30-70 (2nd gear then 3rd)
My NavAlert read 69 mph GPS verified in 2nd, but it's close enough. The 3rd gear pull was to 71-72 before I let off.
My stopwatch shows just under 4 seconds for the 2nd gear 30-70 pull. 3.9 seconds or so...
. I don't have the equipment to properly measure it, and my reaction time probably accounts for .1-.3 seconds, so suffice to say, it's pulling 30-70's in the low 4 second range I measured 0-60 (I did try it, although I realized when I stopped for gas that it didn't get recorded, instead it took a picture
) at just over 5 seconds. If I could put the power down in 1st instead of spinning tires I could probably break 5 seconds.
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too hard to make a choice