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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 11:43 PM
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Which Head to get?

Ok I want to get a Cylinder Head but I don't know witch one to get.
Thumper or RMW? I'm going towards the RMW one. idk.. lol
Or is there a better one? I want the most HP possible.
If there is a thread I missed also about this please link me up.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 12:27 AM
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Accept the Jesus Head as your personal saviour.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 12:34 AM
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I should be getting my Thumper head this week!
Install maybe the week after... followed by custom tune the week after...
I will post the dynos to see how it goes!
I must say I was impressed with the customer service from Mike (no B/S and he won't sell you stuff you don't need).
 
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 12:43 AM
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RMW..
 
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 02:19 AM
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I would go with the RMW.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by simplekid15
Ok I want to get a Cylinder Head but I don't know witch one to get.
Thumper or RMW? I'm going towards the RMW one. idk.. lol
Or is there a better one? I want the most HP possible.
If there is a thread I missed also about this please link me up.
I think mostly everyone on NAM will tell you to go with the RMW.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by D-MAN
I should be getting my Thumper head this week!
Install maybe the week after... followed by custom tune the week after...
I will post the dynos to see how it goes!
I must say I was impressed with the customer service from Mike (no B/S and he won't sell you stuff you don't need).
Yea post those dynos up when u get them.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 07:18 AM
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While the FAV seems to be the RMW, others to look at - Wergner, Webb, Cosworth, Mini Mania.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Bahamabart
While the FAV seems to be the RMW, others to look at - Wergner, Webb, Cosworth, Mini Mania.
Be aware that with the Cosworth they machine a bit off the mating surface which will increases the compression ratio. Just one of those things to watch out for.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 07:49 AM
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This is what I have seen and learned over the past 3 years of this.. The HEAD is as good as the tune! Yep! MOST all of the heads are showing a 20-30 HP gain ( depending on mods) and then the tune is yielding "UN- real numbers!!" Jan is working miracles out there on the WEST coast! No doubt other tuners will make killer gains also. But "to me" Jan is the cutting edge on tunes.

Then there is the use of the car and the cost of that performance.. yes?? It is common knowledge that big valves will allow more mid to top end power. Great for the turns, or straights, or having BIG top Dyno numbers ( with out the tune)... but some guys are after the power increases that will compromise a little top and mid numbers, for the comute to and from work, stop and go lites ... Thus the different heads out there!! SOOooo... I feel ONE HEAD DOESNT FIT ALL APPLICATIONS, yes? I suggest looking hard at application!! Bolt on 25 30 WHP push over the 200-220 total HP mark and have fun.. or go for the BIG NUMBERS and have fun that way!! Just a thought....

D-MAN.... it is on the boat to ya !!

Just me...............................

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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 08:11 AM
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Thumper what are the prices on a big valve with all the goodies?


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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 08:58 AM
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PM..

PM sent...

Just me....................................

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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Thumper460
D-MAN.... it is on the boat to ya !!
Thumper
Thanks Thumper
 
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 08:12 PM
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I have a Gintani Head and it's making mucho power. Once you upgrade the head, you really need a custom tune. Not even MTH can configure for a head up-grade...

Not trying to start a war, I'm just not going to deal with it...There have been claims that the Gintani head is the same as RMW...I know for a fact that they're not...There are things done to the Gintani head that aren't on RMW's, take if for what it is...Please no flaming, just putting out info
 
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 06:10 AM
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Johan.. could you pm me with your mods.. and what HP gains with those??

Thanks

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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 06:16 AM
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Johan is this the supposed 300 hp M45 car?

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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Johan
I have a Gintani Head and it's making mucho power. Once you upgrade the head, you really need a custom tune. Not even MTH can configure for a head up-grade...

Not trying to start a war, I'm just not going to deal with it...There have been claims that the Gintani head is the same as RMW...I know for a fact that they're not...There are things done to the Gintani head that aren't on RMW's, take if for what it is...Please no flaming, just putting out info
As I am not really in the market for a head at this time, I don't feel comfortable calling vendors asking for information. That being said, where can someone find information on this Gintani head? Like, what is different about it compared to RMW's, what kind of power are we talking about here? Have any dynos been done on it? What is the price of this head? I have absolutely no ulterior motive here other than comparisons of heads. In fact the only upgrade head I have seen and experienced is the Cosworth. One day I hope to be in the market for this upgrade so information would be nice.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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...where can someone find information on this Gintani head?
Pick up the phone and give em a call.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 07:27 PM
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Old Mar 29, 2008 | 06:45 AM
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Gintani will you ever post a dyno sheet?

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Old Mar 29, 2008 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by littlehandegan
Gintani will you ever post a dyno sheet?

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Here you go again.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2008 | 08:08 PM
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Here you go again.

Yes, Here I go again asking for some results/data. Not sure if your new to the performance arena but thats usually what you ask for when purchasiung a $2000+ part. Am i wrong?

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Old Mar 29, 2008 | 08:51 PM
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On the dyno (Mustang, 101F day) with Milltek catback, 41.50 lb-ft torque and 58.81 hp @ 6,747 rpm, over stock base line, with an Endyn midrange focused modified head, Endyn valves, otherwise stock valve train, OEM intake & port matched header, 19%, 380 injectors, Helix/GIAC flash. Most of those in the market for headwork are unwilling to wait for a hand crafted stellar product like Endyn’s. Many other components of the tune have changed, but the head is still performing well pushing 50k miles of use.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2008 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Johan
Please no flaming, just putting out info
You call that "info"?
 
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Old Mar 29, 2008 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by k-huevo
On the dyno (Mustang, 101F day) with Milltek catback, 41.50 lb-ft torque and 58.81 hp @ 6,747 rpm, over stock base line, with an Endyn midrange focused modified head, Endyn valves, otherwise stock valve train, OEM intake & port matched header, 19%, 380 injectors, Helix/GIAC flash. Most of those in the market for headwork are unwilling to wait for a hand crafted stellar product like Endyn’s. Many other components of the tune have changed, but the head is still performing well pushing 50k miles of use.
k-huevo, that 41 lbs. and 59 hp. is that only with the head or all those mods you listed, including the 19%?
 
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