Keith, I see your points on the perceptual benefits provided by said product. On this note, I can say it is not for me. The technical document is correct on what it provides; for some people, this monetary investment may be worth the benefit.

Canyon...chill the **** out. Huevo has been nothing but cordial, and you've turned this into a pissing match.

- Matt

 

sounds like moving your seat forward a couple of ticks does the same thing

 

the question is if you hook this up to your brake pedal will you get the feeling of having a BBK?

Seriously, while it may enhance the pedal feel and some may prefer it, there is no true performance enhancement. The price makes it even harder to take serious. Perhaps this would get more serious discussion in another forum - electrical ?

 

if it will give u the better throttle response regardless of how it operates, wouldn't it worth the money? (its quite a lot for what it is but still..) cuz i remember seeing ur post stating that... throttle response improvement alone is worth the $$$ for a little low performance gain of LDG's tune... a long time ago. no?

 

I'm the one looking for improved/more consistent throttle response- Not Bahamabart.

 

i'm talking about bart's long long time-ago post

 

Sorry about that SPRP85- I thought I was the only one complaining about lag.

 

np! trust me tho, you are not the only one who feels crap about the throttle response..

 

Correct the LDG tune improved the throttle response BUT it did other things as well. So I would seek a custom tune and get improved throttle response PLUS the other things for the money. The LDG tune yielded me 8-10 hp increase over my GIAC (adverised as 8hp gain). My tune at the Florida LDG event was a tweak of a previous LDG tune - primarily a/f.

via a tune your get better throttle response via the ECU not a piggyback which is what the sprint booster is.

 

Let's think of a couple of things....

Heavy shift ***** don't do anything to the transmission, yet many like the driver engagment improvement.

Short shift kits dont' do anything to the transmission, yet many like the driver engagment improvement.

The comment about the mouse speed is perfect, and it's very on point. Now think. If you have a way to fast or to slow mouse the task of using a computer is very frustrating.

The Sport button on the 07+ manual MCS has pretty much the same effect. Yet it's not catching the crap that this device does.

I've got my own thoughts on it's price/performance proposition, but really, the number of posts from "experts" who've never used it are staggering. When has Keith (k-huevo) done anything other than honest feedback here? Um, never.

While the concept behind this product may be brilliant or stupid, many are forgetting the "human interface factor". While the function of many things may be identical, how we interact with the thing may turn it from a dud to a star. Something to think about.

Matt

 

The voice of reason.

Unless you try it, people need to stop make statements (good or bad) about a product.

Are you planning on testing one good Dr. ?

Lngboard

 

and is doing some data logging on it. Sometime I hope to put it on the bench and quantify just what it does with some power supplies, an extra e-gas pedal, and an 0-scope/volt meter. But I don't know if this will come to be, we'll see how scheduling goes....

Matt

 

X2

 

take him at his word. He's never steered me wrong....

Matt

 

+1

I've tempered my negativity on said product almost entirely due to his bringing up the perceptual factor (something I had never entertained).

- Matt

 

Your absolutely right. Perhaps this attitude will catch on here at NAM.

 

Dude, whose the girl on your sig?
She's HoTTT!!!!

 

Well mine is on back order for roughly 2 weeks from Mini Mania But I will keep everyone posted with honest info if it sucks.

 

Well I bought it and put it in and it was easily the most pleasant install of any performance part I have done. It does take a while to get used to since the car wants to go fast all the time now which is fine. I give it an 8 out of 10, A tune is a better bet I think gentlemen, but if you can't wait then this will get you by. Hope this helps someone

 

Thanks for an honest first hand opinion

 

k-huevo (keith) and his dishonest first hand opinions!

Matt

 

Just make sure you reset your throttle when you install the SB to get the full effect.

 

Can anyone get me info on reseting the throttle like "FPM" has suggested?

 

Pulling the negative battery cable will accomplish the same thing.

 

According to a local MINI tech the only way to reset the throttle body is with their diagnostic tool. I don’t see a need to however; 50 miles down the road both the EDR program and the user will have “reset” their ways.