Drivetrain GIAC for R56!
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GIAC for R56!
GIAC has just finished tuning the R56 and now is in long-term tesing. I expect that this testing should be done in the next week or so, at which time I will release specific information about the product. for now I'll just divulge that the performance and price will be very attractive: with very strong repeatable torque gains for about $550.
Just as with their Porsche, Audi and VW products, the GIAC tuning file will be delivered to the R56 via flashloader. In other words, the file will modify existing factory maps as opposed to using a piggy-back computer to corrupt sensor signals to the DME. This maintains factory sensor performance evaluation by the DME: something that is important especially as cars get older.
The tuning was done on European Car Magazine's project R56, which will be the subject of a feature in the upcoming issue. All of the tuning and dyno work was done in-house at the GIAC Mustang MD500 AWD dyno. Speaking of the GIAC test cell, it is rapidly becoming the go-to facility for accurate testing by independent parties. You can see one such test tomorrow night on Speed Channel's Street Tuner Challenge, when the show dynos the three challengers (including Fireballed Tim's wild and pregnant-with-moble-sound-lab R56). Tune in at 10 Eastern (I think--check your listings) to see why Garrett missed his real calling as a male model. If we all foucus our energy at the same moment, maybe that EVO will blow up on the dyno .
Just as with their Porsche, Audi and VW products, the GIAC tuning file will be delivered to the R56 via flashloader. In other words, the file will modify existing factory maps as opposed to using a piggy-back computer to corrupt sensor signals to the DME. This maintains factory sensor performance evaluation by the DME: something that is important especially as cars get older.
The tuning was done on European Car Magazine's project R56, which will be the subject of a feature in the upcoming issue. All of the tuning and dyno work was done in-house at the GIAC Mustang MD500 AWD dyno. Speaking of the GIAC test cell, it is rapidly becoming the go-to facility for accurate testing by independent parties. You can see one such test tomorrow night on Speed Channel's Street Tuner Challenge, when the show dynos the three challengers (including Fireballed Tim's wild and pregnant-with-moble-sound-lab R56). Tune in at 10 Eastern (I think--check your listings) to see why Garrett missed his real calling as a male model. If we all foucus our energy at the same moment, maybe that EVO will blow up on the dyno .
Last edited by Helix13mini; 01-30-2008 at 10:57 AM.
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I’m assuming it will use the OBD2 hand-held just like they do for the tuning of their other cars.
I had this setup on my Audi 225 TT. It was great and could be switched back to stock at any point.
http://www.giacusa.com/flashloader_handheld.php
I had this setup on my Audi 225 TT. It was great and could be switched back to stock at any point.
http://www.giacusa.com/flashloader_handheld.php
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Under the "stock" flash option on the page you linked it says:
Stock: Similar to the original factory programming
Assuming this was the same for the tuning they'll offer for the R56...
If the dealer hooked the car up for any reason to get codes or anything like that, would this be a noticeable difference?
Just the usual "what if something dies in my car and I need warranty service" type question...
Is it possible to obtain the factory software and reflash with that?
Stock: Similar to the original factory programming
Assuming this was the same for the tuning they'll offer for the R56...
If the dealer hooked the car up for any reason to get codes or anything like that, would this be a noticeable difference?
Just the usual "what if something dies in my car and I need warranty service" type question...
Is it possible to obtain the factory software and reflash with that?
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Under the "stock" flash option on the page you linked it says:
Stock: Similar to the original factory programming
Assuming this was the same for the tuning they'll offer for the R56...
If the dealer hooked the car up for any reason to get codes or anything like that, would this be a noticeable difference?
Just the usual "what if something dies in my car and I need warranty service" type question...
Is it possible to obtain the factory software and reflash with that?
Stock: Similar to the original factory programming
Assuming this was the same for the tuning they'll offer for the R56...
If the dealer hooked the car up for any reason to get codes or anything like that, would this be a noticeable difference?
Just the usual "what if something dies in my car and I need warranty service" type question...
Is it possible to obtain the factory software and reflash with that?
I know we've had customers using it on their VW's that loved it so I'm definitely interested.
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Have had the GIAC/TBE AWE combo on my GTI for the past 15 months and hope to repeat it on a MCS this summer. The most impressive gain has been in the torque department, with the car dyno'd at 241 hp/278 ft-lbs. It is very temp sensitive with significant loss of power in summer.
GIAC has in the past offered software suited to various aftermarket exhaust systems and it would be nice if this would be offered again.
GIAC has in the past offered software suited to various aftermarket exhaust systems and it would be nice if this would be offered again.
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In response to the Flashloader question, GIAC will distribute flashloaders for the MINI if there is enough intereset (read: sales). It's unlikely that they will spend the time and money on the necessary encryption if sales are too low to support the work. But if it takes off like I think it will, there's a very good chance that either the flashloader or an IBE switch will be made available.
In the meantime you will have to visit an authorized GIAC dealer to get it done. We plan to offer the GIAC flashes at both AMVIV and the Dragon, and we can always bench flash your DME here at the shop. In other words, you could overnight us your DME (the computer that controls the engine), we flash it, and overnight it back. We have a 24-hour turnaround guarantee on that arrangement.
In the meantime you will have to visit an authorized GIAC dealer to get it done. We plan to offer the GIAC flashes at both AMVIV and the Dragon, and we can always bench flash your DME here at the shop. In other words, you could overnight us your DME (the computer that controls the engine), we flash it, and overnight it back. We have a 24-hour turnaround guarantee on that arrangement.
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I think he was saying the STC used GIAC's dyno to test all the cars. I could be wrong though.
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Sure, I still hope I read it right. If I remember correctly Garret used to work closely with the Torque Factory guys, but I have been out of the VW scene for a long time.
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A tuned ECU Flash from GIAC on a basically stock R56 isn't trying to make the severe changes that the Fireball car needed in order to run right with all of the new mods to the motor.
I love the improvment the GIAC flash made on my R53, and i know the R56 has tons more left in the bank for GIAC to pull out with their custom tune.
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Totally different situation here. Fireball had made extensive motor changes, turbo, etc, with the hopes of tripling that output of a stock R56.
A tuned ECU Flash from GIAC on a basically stock R56 isn't trying to make the severe changes that the Fireball car needed in order to run right with all of the new mods to the motor.
I love the improvment the GIAC flash made on my R53, and i know the R56 has tons more left in the bank for GIAC to pull out with their custom tune.
A tuned ECU Flash from GIAC on a basically stock R56 isn't trying to make the severe changes that the Fireball car needed in order to run right with all of the new mods to the motor.
I love the improvment the GIAC flash made on my R53, and i know the R56 has tons more left in the bank for GIAC to pull out with their custom tune.