Drivetrain NEW ALTA R56 Plug-n-Play ECU Q&A Thread
Hi everyone....
I think almost everyone overlooked me posting about the p115 issue...
We solved the issue with our "CEL Defender" this part will take care of the soft throttle issue some of you have experienced (not from collapsing intake tubes) but usually from the ECU uppgrades that are available on the market- place IE. Alta/Unichip modules.
I will have a new Vendor release of the part on Monday with some images
as well....
Peter
M7 Tuning
562-608-8123
I think almost everyone overlooked me posting about the p115 issue...
We solved the issue with our "CEL Defender" this part will take care of the soft throttle issue some of you have experienced (not from collapsing intake tubes) but usually from the ECU uppgrades that are available on the market- place IE. Alta/Unichip modules.
I will have a new Vendor release of the part on Monday with some images
as well....
Peter
M7 Tuning
562-608-8123
hey Peter,
Thanks for the post. But from what I read on the other forum you mentioned this in, a CEL defender on the MAF is NOT a good idea and will cause tremendous issues relating MAF signals to the ECU and thus compensation for air flow, air temp and volume changes.
There are NO reported incidence of CEL's from intake systems (ours or even the near free versions on teh market as well) that remove the OEM filter, box and assembly. There isn't any additional turbulence in these situations.
Of course I would like to see more information on the product you mentioned, but until I see it, I must say I am concerned.
Thanks again! Chat soon!
Didn't overlook it there, words like CEL Defender always catch my eye. I saw, then I saw no explanation, or more info.
CELs are a sign something is wrong, I usually do not use a product that hides CELs or CEL triggers from me. Perhaps some more details would be appropriate in a new thread...
CELs are a sign something is wrong, I usually do not use a product that hides CELs or CEL triggers from me. Perhaps some more details would be appropriate in a new thread...
x2. I am going through the SAME problem....Without the ECU in it runs PERFECT. When I plug the PnP ECU, sometimes the boost just dies out. When I am in 6th gear and give it some gas, the boost cuts off 90% of the time at 3k rpm. I tested without the PvP ECU driving it hard and all and yet to have no CEL or no-boost issues.
I am needing help also
I am needing help also
Thanks again for the purchase!
On the other concerns, try both maps and let me know. Also, pm me with your # and I can certainly ring you if you need to chat.
Thanks again!
Hey guys and gals,
Jeff and I did some addl. testing this week on some stuff including on some returned "bad" ECU / Harness combos.
Interesting results:
One member here sent me one back, had a reported P0115D code and worked great in 1-4 th gears accelerating hard, but roll in 4-5-6th had the code above. Literally took it out of the box, plugged it into Lloyd and went for a few runs. 20 miles later and no cel. Tried the exact same tests on the freeway making pulls repeatedly in 5th and 6th. No Cel. Launched the car, got into 4th at 1500 rpm, pulled through to 90 mph 3X in a row, no CEL no problem.
Removed harness and repeated with another local 08 MCS. Same results. Tried an 07 MCS, same results.
This was the same with all of them returned.
Gave one to another local client to try, boom 15 minutes CEL, same code same issue.
So Jeff and I will continue to research, BUT it would appear that there are some changes in cars that doesn't seem to have rhyme or reason from a production date standpoint. Auto /6-spd no difference.
SO the product is VERY good, harnesses are 100%, but there are a handful of cars that will have this CEL. We will of course continue to work on it moving forward till be 100% satisfaction with all vs. 95%.
Thanks again NAM for the support and the opportunities!
Chat soon!
Jeff and I did some addl. testing this week on some stuff including on some returned "bad" ECU / Harness combos.
Interesting results:
One member here sent me one back, had a reported P0115D code and worked great in 1-4 th gears accelerating hard, but roll in 4-5-6th had the code above. Literally took it out of the box, plugged it into Lloyd and went for a few runs. 20 miles later and no cel. Tried the exact same tests on the freeway making pulls repeatedly in 5th and 6th. No Cel. Launched the car, got into 4th at 1500 rpm, pulled through to 90 mph 3X in a row, no CEL no problem.
Removed harness and repeated with another local 08 MCS. Same results. Tried an 07 MCS, same results.
This was the same with all of them returned.
Gave one to another local client to try, boom 15 minutes CEL, same code same issue.
So Jeff and I will continue to research, BUT it would appear that there are some changes in cars that doesn't seem to have rhyme or reason from a production date standpoint. Auto /6-spd no difference.
SO the product is VERY good, harnesses are 100%, but there are a handful of cars that will have this CEL. We will of course continue to work on it moving forward till be 100% satisfaction with all vs. 95%.
Thanks again NAM for the support and the opportunities!
Chat soon!
Interesting. I had this specific P0115D CEL code as one of two codes that first appeared with the GEN I ALTA PnP ECU Kit. It continued to show up each time I installed the GEN II, & GEN III PnP ECU Kits. After the collapsing ALTA INLET TUBE problem was diagnosed and Jeff (ALTA) recommeded re-swapping back the OEM Inlet tube prior to returning the ecu kit, the P0115D disappeared and the congestion and performance issues, boost cut that resulted each time I installed the ecu went away.
So in my case, the ALTA INLET TUBE was the culprit and was causing the P0115D CEL error. Waiting for an ALTA replacement and hope it is coming soon.
I do however want to state that in my setup, the ecu definitely rocks
now after the OEM INLET swap
. A persisting 0420 code that first appeared with the P0115D is exhaust system related.
So in my case, the ALTA INLET TUBE was the culprit and was causing the P0115D CEL error. Waiting for an ALTA replacement and hope it is coming soon.
I do however want to state that in my setup, the ecu definitely rocks
now after the OEM INLET swap Interesting. I had this specific P0115D CEL code as one of two codes that first appeared with the GEN I ALTA PnP ECU Kit. It continued to show up each time I installed the GEN II, & GEN III PnP ECU Kits. After the collapsing ALTA INLET TUBE problem was diagnosed and Jeff (ALTA) recommeded re-swapping back the OEM Inlet tube prior to returning the ecu kit, the P0115D disappeared and the congestion and performance issues, boost cut that resulted each time I installed the ecu went away.
So in my case, the ALTA INLET TUBE was the culprit and was causing the P0115D CEL error. Waiting for an ALTA replacement and hope it is coming soon.
I do however want to state that in my setup, the ecu definitely rocks
now after the OEM INLET swap
. A persisting 0420 code that first appeared with the P0115D is exhaust system related.
So in my case, the ALTA INLET TUBE was the culprit and was causing the P0115D CEL error. Waiting for an ALTA replacement and hope it is coming soon.
I do however want to state that in my setup, the ecu definitely rocks
now after the OEM INLET swap i'll take a coupon for a boost gauge
At some point, a few( and very few from my understanding) did not cure properly, and with the added boost of the ECU, collapse causing little or no boost in the upper gear/rpm range. So, people who have had this problem(such as kntrktor and myself) are waiting for the replacement(s).
I can check tomorrow. Shouldn't be long at all! Thanks for the patience!
Snkbte has it right above. The only other addition is a hard piece of wiring through the tube itself to prevent collapsing even in the roughest of conditions.
Let me know if I can help!
Let me know if I can help!
Gave one to another local client to try, boom 15 minutes CEL, same code same issue.
So Jeff and I will continue to research, BUT it would appear that there are some changes in cars that doesn't seem to have rhyme or reason from a production date standpoint. Auto /6-spd no difference.
SO the product is VERY good, harnesses are 100%, but there are a handful of cars that will have this CEL. We will of course continue to work on it moving forward till be 100% satisfaction with all vs. 95%.
Chat soon!
Chat soon Kirk!
Just installed my UNI Chip and everything is running great...NO CEL's Yet...The car feels a little stronger but I didn't really get a chance to get on it. I did notice after a nice sprint on I10 that the MPG dropped from 29.2 to 24.6 very fast. I have never seen it drop that fast before the Uni Chip, so that is one indicator that it is working.....Next up a boost gage.....Thank you Alta for the remap and a great product.....I hope I don't eat those words.....
I will really give it a test this weekend on a small road trip. On my drive to work this morning, I drove it very moderately and the MPG went higher than it's ever been......I'm loving that alone....and to know that if I want to get on it the power is there.....I don't get excited about much but this put a big grin on my face.
Last edited by Lockness75; May 22, 2008 at 06:29 AM.
I will really give it a test this weekend on a small road trip. On my drive to work this morning, I drove it very moderately and the MPG went higher than it's ever been......I'm loving that alone....and to know that if I want to get on it the power is there.....I don't get excited about much but this put a big grin on my face. 



