Drivetrain Traction Issues
Traction Issues
Ok, so I'm having a semi-good problem. It seems anytime I really get on it in first gear the tires start spinning and will spin at the 1-2 shift after which I finally have traction. Good because power has increased to the point where I'm having traction problems. Bad because it is embarassing to squeal tires throughout 1st gear.
I'm wondering if there is anything short of an lsd I can do to fix this. So far my power enhancers are JCW performace package (tune, intake, cat-back), Alta boost tubes, and Alta intake tube. I have plans to get at least an Alta intercooler so I'm going to have more power to deal with soon.
Ideas?
-Brian
I'm wondering if there is anything short of an lsd I can do to fix this. So far my power enhancers are JCW performace package (tune, intake, cat-back), Alta boost tubes, and Alta intake tube. I have plans to get at least an Alta intercooler so I'm going to have more power to deal with soon.
Ideas?
-Brian
The car is at home right now so I cant check the exact model but I do know they are Dulop runflats. I was think they might be contributing to the problem since they are not the set that came with the car. I bought 17 inch wheels with these tires on them from another NAM'er a few months back.
Upgrade your tires.
Its the cheapest and easily the most bang-for-the-buck upgrade you can do.
If you live in a cold climate, get a spare set of rims with dedicated winter tires... check out the first 5 stickys on the tire forums, or call our sponsor Alex @ tirerack
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Its the cheapest and easily the most bang-for-the-buck upgrade you can do.
If you live in a cold climate, get a spare set of rims with dedicated winter tires... check out the first 5 stickys on the tire forums, or call our sponsor Alex @ tirerack
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...splay.php?f=36
BTw, most people lose the runflats, and get a tire-repair kit... compressor, can-o-slime, and a plug kit... I made my kit for ~$25 and keep it in the "spare" compartments on either side of the boot.
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I have H&R springs. Thinking about going back to stock due to loud bang noise I'm hearing on the passenger side over highway speed bumps.
EDIT: And I'm still even on stock runflats!
Last edited by scott48; Dec 18, 2007 at 10:38 AM.
As far as traction... that's the issue when you start to put larger hp and torque figures through a FWD chassis. It gets difficult to put the power to the ground.
I would second what's already been said here: Stickier tires, stiffer rear springs (keep the H&Rs) and modulate power a little better with your foot. Remember, you actually accellerate faster by modulating power with the throddle and maintaining traction during your launch than you do squeeling your tires from a stand-still like some drag-racer wanna-be.
Maniac,
I have H&R springs on my '07 MCS. It came with the sport suspension, so the dampers are probably better matched to the springs. But, I never have any kind of noises when hitting speed, or other kinds of bumps. Things are a bit stiffer, but there are no noises present; the car still sounds as it did prior to the installation of the H&R springs.
The car--to mine eye--looks better than it did when on stock springs. I also like the handling better. I just did Phase I and Phase I of the Evolution Schools last weekend in Tucson, and the car was big fun to drive; much nicer than stock.
The springs have put me on the slippery slope of modifications and running in STX class, but, the devil made me do it. Now the old boy is after me to get a down pipe and cat-back exhaust. He has even hinted about an after cooler.
alas . . .
Joe
I have H&R springs on my '07 MCS. It came with the sport suspension, so the dampers are probably better matched to the springs. But, I never have any kind of noises when hitting speed, or other kinds of bumps. Things are a bit stiffer, but there are no noises present; the car still sounds as it did prior to the installation of the H&R springs.
The car--to mine eye--looks better than it did when on stock springs. I also like the handling better. I just did Phase I and Phase I of the Evolution Schools last weekend in Tucson, and the car was big fun to drive; much nicer than stock.
The springs have put me on the slippery slope of modifications and running in STX class, but, the devil made me do it. Now the old boy is after me to get a down pipe and cat-back exhaust. He has even hinted about an after cooler.
alas . . .
Joe
The Yoko's are sticky (and look cool), but their tires tend to stick like glue until they don't. Tires like the BFG G-Force sports or Avon Tech m500's have some incredible grip & they have a much more forgiving/controllable break-away (and you can run them almost all year long).
Maniac,
I have H&R springs on my '07 MCS. It came with the sport suspension, so the dampers are probably better matched to the springs. But, I never have any kind of noises when hitting speed, or other kinds of bumps. Things are a bit stiffer, but there are no noises present; the car still sounds as it did prior to the installation of the H&R springs.
The car--to mine eye--looks better than it did when on stock springs. I also like the handling better. I just did Phase I and Phase I of the Evolution Schools last weekend in Tucson, and the car was big fun to drive; much nicer than stock.
The springs have put me on the slippery slope of modifications and running in STX class, but, the devil made me do it. Now the old boy is after me to get a down pipe and cat-back exhaust. He has even hinted about an after cooler.
alas . . .
Joe
I have H&R springs on my '07 MCS. It came with the sport suspension, so the dampers are probably better matched to the springs. But, I never have any kind of noises when hitting speed, or other kinds of bumps. Things are a bit stiffer, but there are no noises present; the car still sounds as it did prior to the installation of the H&R springs.
The car--to mine eye--looks better than it did when on stock springs. I also like the handling better. I just did Phase I and Phase I of the Evolution Schools last weekend in Tucson, and the car was big fun to drive; much nicer than stock.
The springs have put me on the slippery slope of modifications and running in STX class, but, the devil made me do it. Now the old boy is after me to get a down pipe and cat-back exhaust. He has even hinted about an after cooler.
alas . . .
Joe
One other suggestion: practice squeezing the throttle, or if you prefer another term, modulating throttle application. As you get good at feeding in the throttle, you will be able to keep the tires--whatever kind they are--at the limit of available traction. This is also the point where the tires offer the greatest amount of traction, and thus is likely to be the point where the car will gain speed most rapidly.
In the afore mentioned Evolution Schools I was often told to "squeeze the throttle;" never once did anyone say "punch it!" Perhaps they saw at once that I did not to be told to do the latter. But my times and control improved as I got better at throttle modulation and feeling for the edge of adhesion. Learning to sense the edge of traction is a good skill to develop, it hardly matters if you are turning or going in a straight line. It also results in greater tire life.
Happy holidays,
Joe
In the afore mentioned Evolution Schools I was often told to "squeeze the throttle;" never once did anyone say "punch it!" Perhaps they saw at once that I did not to be told to do the latter. But my times and control improved as I got better at throttle modulation and feeling for the edge of adhesion. Learning to sense the edge of traction is a good skill to develop, it hardly matters if you are turning or going in a straight line. It also results in greater tire life.
Happy holidays,
Joe
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