Drivetrain Back by Popular Demand: Jan at Helix in Jan.
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From: Silver Spring, MD
Sounds like a plan. Count me in as a MD peep
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From: Ellicott City, MD
How is Maryland House rest area and information center, north of Baltimore sounds?
The Maryland House. This facility is located in the median of I-95 and is accessible to both northbound and southbound traffic. It is approximately 24 miles north of Baltimore City in Harford County, Maryland. Food and fuel are available to the motorist at this location.
I-95 South and I-95 North Welcome Centers. These welcome centers are located on Interstate Route 95 between Baltimore and Washington in Howard County, Maryland. The Southbound site serves traffic heading towards Washington D.C. and points south. Ph. (301) 490-2444. The Northbound site serves traffic heading toward the Baltimore/Annapolis area and points north. Ph. (301) 490-1333.
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I like to think of it as "Janmania"
seriously, I can't stress how much of a no brainer this is especially, especially, ..... at this price........
seriously, I can't stress how much of a no brainer this is especially, especially, ..... at this price........
Sounds like a few days worth!!!!
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From: Brooklyn, NY
Jan/Ralph,
How much would it cost to reflash the ecu if my dealer wipes out the tune?
Count me in unless the tune date doesn't work for me.
Cost of shipping the flash tool
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From: MINIapolis
If there are more people than time available, I'll totally give up my spot. I'd much rather finish the new exhaust and a few other little things before getting tuned. A month or two later would be perfect.. *cough*
I am interested depending on the date.
It will be hard for me to miss a couple days of college during the week since I am the TA for an astronomy class.
I might as well get the RMW head/cam/tune combo...depending on how the stock market goes. Maybe even take off the 2%, etc.
It will be hard for me to miss a couple days of college during the week since I am the TA for an astronomy class.
I might as well get the RMW head/cam/tune combo...depending on how the stock market goes. Maybe even take off the 2%, etc.
Last edited by cooper99; Dec 2, 2007 at 09:44 PM.
o yeah and i remember that they DID offer it once but disappeared rather fast
guys....just a reminder...let's leave them out of this thread elst big pooch or his crony will come in here and take another thread into the gutter.
let's keep this about Jan and the Helix day.
let's keep this about Jan and the Helix day.
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Hey MSF,
I'll be heading to Helix from Jersey City, if were are both included and if there are others heading from N.Y. area, we should link up somewhere along the way as well.
Great way to start a day of tuning
I'll be heading to Helix from Jersey City, if were are both included and if there are others heading from N.Y. area, we should link up somewhere along the way as well.
Great way to start a day of tuning
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From: Cumming, GA
I think I can see why there is a difference in approaches.
I think these differences are pretty straightforward and offer clear choices.
Jan doesn't own and maintain a dyno.
He doesn't own a full-service facility, capable of taking care of related issues on the spot. He doesn't stock parts like plugs, belts, filters, etc.
Frankly, he doesn't have time to address those issues on a tightly scheduled dyno day. That's why Way was so invaluable at the Atlanta event. Even so, Way ran out of spare belts and I happened to have one for one of the participants, or he would not have been able to participate.
RMW didn't pay for an authorized version of the Dimsport from the US distributor. So once again, his operating costs are significantly less. Hence a lower price.
Remote tunes like RMW does are very good, but they simply cannot compare to a thorough tune when time isn't an issue (6-8 tunes in one day simply cannot be thorough).
There are several variables to overcome that a full-time location with everything in place doesn't have. Valuable dyno time isn't lost while simply getting ready with 6-8 folks standing around. Thus there's really little or no time for him to get in a car for an initial test drive, then after the initial tune take a test drive, note where improvemenents could be made, come back and introduce them, go back out to see if that took care of it, etc.
I never observed him spending time refining the tune, because he simply did not have the time.
So price is an issue. The RMW tune represents excellent value from what I've seen. It's basically a flash with some quick specific-to that-car adjustments. This is way better than any other technique out there, except for a LDG tune, which will cost a bit more simply because it's much more thorough, and it's conducted on his dyno, which he owns, in his facility, which he owns, on the latest Dimsport software.
The LDG tune is for those who want the best and are willing to pay more. When you consider an extra $80-$100 for the dyno rental, that puts the RMW tune at $430-450. The LDG tune is a slightly more expensive option which may or may not be the choice for those who want something better than stock, JCW, MTH, GIAC, Unichip, etc.
I think these differences are pretty straightforward and offer clear choices.
Jan doesn't own and maintain a dyno.
He doesn't own a full-service facility, capable of taking care of related issues on the spot. He doesn't stock parts like plugs, belts, filters, etc.
Frankly, he doesn't have time to address those issues on a tightly scheduled dyno day. That's why Way was so invaluable at the Atlanta event. Even so, Way ran out of spare belts and I happened to have one for one of the participants, or he would not have been able to participate.
RMW didn't pay for an authorized version of the Dimsport from the US distributor. So once again, his operating costs are significantly less. Hence a lower price.
Remote tunes like RMW does are very good, but they simply cannot compare to a thorough tune when time isn't an issue (6-8 tunes in one day simply cannot be thorough).
There are several variables to overcome that a full-time location with everything in place doesn't have. Valuable dyno time isn't lost while simply getting ready with 6-8 folks standing around. Thus there's really little or no time for him to get in a car for an initial test drive, then after the initial tune take a test drive, note where improvemenents could be made, come back and introduce them, go back out to see if that took care of it, etc.
I never observed him spending time refining the tune, because he simply did not have the time.
So price is an issue. The RMW tune represents excellent value from what I've seen. It's basically a flash with some quick specific-to that-car adjustments. This is way better than any other technique out there, except for a LDG tune, which will cost a bit more simply because it's much more thorough, and it's conducted on his dyno, which he owns, in his facility, which he owns, on the latest Dimsport software.
The LDG tune is for those who want the best and are willing to pay more. When you consider an extra $80-$100 for the dyno rental, that puts the RMW tune at $430-450. The LDG tune is a slightly more expensive option which may or may not be the choice for those who want something better than stock, JCW, MTH, GIAC, Unichip, etc.
Last edited by hornguys; Dec 3, 2007 at 07:17 AM.