Hey just trying to find out which one out of the Mini-Madness and the Moss Cobalt Oil Cooler is the better one to go for. Obviously the Mini-Madness one is like twice the price but is it better? Thanks in advance

 

The Mini-Madness oil cooler uses a Setrab oil cooler, the Cobalt oil cooler uses some semi-cheap two pass radiator. Also, the Madness cooler has holes for oil temp and pressure. I myself, have the mounting adapter plate from my broken cobalt oil cooler and then I custom worked the mounting of my seperately ordered Setrab oil cooler. Photos available on demand.

 

photos please. I would like to see how the radiator bolts onto the front of the car

 

Mine is total custom beyond the oil adapter plate and parts.


Sorry for the bad image quality.

The reason its mounted there is because of the way my Cobolt oil cooler broke. That was mounted down low, and last winter my car had an appetite for ice and snow. There is a thread about it somewhere...my engine's status was unknown for quite some time.

 

Where do they normally sit then? How do they get bolted in? Have you noticed a difference with it on? Thanks very much for your info and pics by the way, it is good of you to do that

 

I notice my car has more 'pep' when the oil is above 190 degrees. eh...oh yeah, i have an oil temp and pressure gauge, they were installed at the same time as my current oil cooler. Anyway, the highest temp i have seen is 260 degrees and that was at the top of the "Alpine to Hanging Limb" stretch of road in Tenn. Before my gauges and second oil cooler i never noticed any difference in the car as my drive wore on. Being able to monitor pressure and temp might make me more keen on what is going on. When your car is cold (below 70 degree oil), oil pressure is upwards of 60psi at idle. As the car warms the oil psi lowers to it's minimal idle psi of 5-6 at 200+ degree oil. And yes, I have more than the necessary minimum of +10psi for every additional 1,000 rpm at any temp.

If you are going to build your own system or install a kit, I recomend getting a thermostat. This will alow you to run in cold weather without over cooling the oil. Those can be found here.

I know that my old oil cooler was mounted to the lower part of the aircon condensor by zip ties. As for the Mini-Madness one, im not too sure.

If you want any more detailed information, you can pm me. This thread is kind of a two way thing anyway.

 

That's cool. I have to go to bed now. I live in Australia our time here is 9:10pm Saturday night and I have to work tomorrow at 7am. I hope we can pic this up some other time as I am really interested in this. Thanks again for all your help and info

 

Ok, it's 8:10pm here in Japan...heh heh, but tomorrow sunday w00t.

It's nice having a seemingly private thread.

 

nice discussion man . very thorough . i can only add that the madness full kit is the way to go if you havn't played with oil lines and such in the past . just add the t- stat if you live in seasonal to cold climes . 95% of oil is recirced till up to temp then all is allowed through . it works well . mocal is the one i'm using .

 

Talking to a friend about the oil cooler told me that he thinks if the wind is too cold cooling through a radiator may the oil gets too cold and the performance could be worst is that true? Isn't there any water oil cooler, as there are water to air IC?

 

i think the stock one is water to oil, but it uses the engine coolant, and if i remember corectly, t smore to warm the oil up than cool it down. I was looking at installing one a while ago, but dont think i need it yet. Probably will need it next year tho. Beecher

 

With an oil thermostat, you dont have to worry about over cooling the oil.

 

How exactly does the oil thermostat plumb in? I see it has four ports. Is one side (pair) just completely open for the bypass? The other two ports must be in from the engine and out to the oil cooler when the thermostat is open.

As for oil temp, I have had a temp gauge since the end of summer. The highest temps I see are cruising on the highway at around 230 degrees F. This is with the stock water-oil cooler. What most people don't understand is how long it actually takes for the oil to get up to steady state temperature. 15+ minutes even when on the highway in the summer. Longer in the winter. I keep my foot out of it until at least 180 degrees, preferably 200.

 

As for winter, I have not been through one with this set up yet.

About the oil thermostat, it allows some oil to circulate through the cooler, but does not open untill 180 F. Sometime you can hear it click as it opens.

 

Thanks nabeshin!!!

 

Which is the best thermostat to get? One with a -12 thread size or the -10 one?

 

Hey Nabeshin, What is the model of your setrab cooler? How high is it and how many bar?