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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 02:19 PM
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LDG says alot of things for sho...
 
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 02:26 PM
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Jan must be amused with all our bickering.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 07:39 AM
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OK no more posting in this thread until you have gone through the following training program.

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting

We don't want any Little Billy's running around here.
 

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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 07:45 AM
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OK no more posting in this thread until you have gone through the following training program.

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting

We don't want any Little Billy's running around here.
Now that's a keeper
 
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 1FSTMINI
Jan must be amused with all our bickering.

not really... RMW is just setting records at the track
 
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 1FSTMINI
i thought i read a few pages back that LDG was putting down the M62 mod.

to tired to go looking for it.

John/LDG said the M62 has its use ("high-revving track app") but that it's a PITA to successfully add + tune, and high cost meaning low commercial viability.

And I don't see the prob with totally off-topic banter like this now that the tuning day has come and gone. As long as it remains civil o' course.
 

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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by RedSkunk
John/LDG said the M62 has its use ("high-revving track app") but that it's a PITA to successfully add + tune, and high cost meaning low commercial viability.

And I don't see the prob with totally off-topic banter like this now that the tuning day has come and gone. As long as it remains civil o' course.
Just like Twincharging was put down by those who could not successfully do it... there are plenty running around out there... the same goes for the M62...

as for cost... nothing done right... is going to be "cheap"... especially when you are a niche in a niche lol.... there's a TON of work that goes into the M62... just like doing a turbo only... it take time and money...
 
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Tüls
as for cost... nothing done right... is going to be "cheap"... especially when you are a niche in a niche lol.... there's a TON of work that goes into the M62... just like doing a turbo only... it take time and money...
Werd. Who you telling?
 
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 01:15 PM
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i'm done trying to have any sort of discussion in this thread lol. fwiw I don't want to put words in Jan's mouth... but from talking to him... i'd assume he doesn't care about all this bickering and nonsense.

Jan's prob got his head down and his eye on the prise as usual ignoring all the vendor bs in this community, instead focusing on teh customers. I think it's however safe to say, that bob myself and everyone else involved in this tuning session never assumed this thread would have assploded the way it did. haha
 
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 01:43 PM
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Easier with the assploded there buddy... NAM is how some of us get our entertainment! lol... you can't write retardation this good!
 
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 01:49 PM
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Very good Tuls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Revolution Mini Works
not really... RMW is just setting records at the track
Love to hear more about these records . Which tracks and classes in particular ?
 
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 03:12 PM
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https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=120233

I'm assuming.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RedSkunk
Looks like a HPD track day from what I can see. No mention of what class was run or what records were broken either . It would be unusual for a organizing body to run such an event during the week but perhaps this was something special. Still waiting on the details as are others in the thread you listed are as well .
 
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by minimusprime
enough ***** competitions. I personally would not run a 19% unless I had a head to cope with the extra boost they produce at high rpm. I still question the life of the super chargers at this rpm with regards to cavitation... but jan would know a boat load more about this then i would.

Also... fwiw... not all injectors are created equal... ie size isn't the only thing that matters.
FWIW the cavitation issue is with the water pump (Which is attached to the SC) not with the SC. Cavitation refers to a phenomena in which a prop is spinning so fast that it creates turbulence and actually begins to stall and suck what it's pushing back in. It's somewhat similar to rotor stall in a Helicopter, when the helicopter is moving so quickly in a forward direction that the spinning of the rotor blades causes the rotor to enter a high speed "Stall" where it no longer produces enough downward thrust to keep the Helicopter in the air.

After seeing the numbers on a 19%, I can certainly say, they're tasty. I worry about how much heat you're pushing through the engine though. With a 15 I consistently see IAT's of 130-150 on the track. Pushing it hard i've seen as high as 180 degrees. On anything but race gas 180 degree intake temps are going to cause LOTs of detonation.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Dog
Been there, done that. You're right. Now try to sell that turbo car in a state that has strict smog laws like Maryland. At least with the M62 you have a chance because it's still a supercharger/original configuration.
You think Maryland has strict smog laws? . Ever heard of CARB? California has some of the strictest smog laws in the WORLD. You can get pulled over, and get a ticket for having an intake here, hell, i've seen people pulled over who got thousands of dollars in tickets for everything on their car. Maryland is a joke compared to California.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by trackster
Looks like a HPD track day from what I can see. No mention of what class was run or what records were broken either . It would be unusual for a organizing body to run such an event during the week but perhaps this was something special. Still waiting on the details as are others in the thread you listed are as well .
As I mentioned in that other thread it's time for everyone to put up...

Find a central location, agree on a date and show up. Then compare lap times. Make it fun, swap drivers and see who runs what.

Yeah trackster it was an HPDE. It's not SCCA or NASA, there are no classes. Just a bunch of folks out having a good day on the track. Times were kept and seems those at the track that run these events happen to know over time what Mini's generally should run. Just as they know what a GT3 or an Evo or a Subbiw should be able to run. Looks too like Jan and Sean are turnign times those that know think are better then the norm. Figure there is some exhuberance knowing that what they did was consdered better then the norm. They are human and like talk up their success. Is it that hard to allow someone to be happy and proud of their accomplishments.

BTW trackster...with a nick like that what tracks do you run? In your Mini? Do you keep track of your times, they do make a great teaching tool.
 
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