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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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Been there, done that. You're right. Now try to sell that turbo car in a state that has strict smog laws like Maryland. At least with the M62 you have a chance because it's still a supercharger/original configuration.

I love how people always try to throw the carb thing in to a conversation about efficiency.. LOL... like states like Maryland and Cali are the soul reason we should ignore the best way to do something... yep... that makes total sence
 
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 03:19 PM
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my factory turbo car came with three cats. I've run it through VA emissions with a single high flow cat and no issues (hint...take it when it's thoroughly warmed up).
 
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 04:27 AM
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I love how some people just don't get the point. What people do with their own cars is their business. The point is that a business that provides parts and services has to adhere to these laws and advise customers accordingly. There are too many instances where people purchase cars and then can not register them for street use. This results in a huge financial disaster for these individuals especially if they're young with limited resources. Get it now Tuls? BTW,have you ever considered spell check? How about reading a book or something.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 04:43 AM
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Give it a break. Play in your own world. For some reason if we don't agree with you we're dumb or whatever. People can make their choices for whatever they want to do in life. Play in your buddies own forum.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 05:29 AM
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I love how some people just don't get the point. What people do with their own cars is their business. The point is that a business that provides parts and services has to adhere to these laws and advise customers accordingly. There are too many instances where people purchase cars and then can not register them for street use. This results in a huge financial disaster for these individuals especially if they're young with limited resources. Get it now Tuls? BTW,have you ever considered spell check? How about reading a book or something.
So what people do to their cars is not YOUR business, why are YOU always up in someones??? And i never seen anyone not able to register a car because of performance mods.

And I also think your alittle bitter because no one wants to deal with you from this site with that attitude of yours and the fact you limit your tune to certain mods. Thats not a tuner. Do you see GIAC or UNICHIP limiting there software to certain mods, no.

Im not a violent person and this is the internet , but if i was in your shop and you spoke me the way you just did to TULS, you'd be eating your teeth.

And speaking of the comment you made to him. Read the site guidlines if you plan on staying here.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 05:32 AM
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BTW,have you ever considered spell check? How about reading a book or something.


your posts never cease to amaze me. The reality of it is... people are going to do what people are going to do. From my perspective it's their cars... they are going to do whatever they want. I mean... you can make suggestions, but in the end it's still their investment. the funny thing is I agree with a lot of things that you say, with regards to car tuning theory... you're just so condescending I can't possibly agree with you.
 

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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 05:33 AM
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I think you just hit the nail on the head... That and the controversy at the dragon, where he just did off the shelf tunes because they forgot the maps at the shop, or so i heard... He can't match Jan's results and success, and he chooses to vent his envy by bashing other vendors....
Originally Posted by 1FSTMINI

And I also think your alittle bitter because no one wants to deal with you from this site with that attitude of yours and the fact you limit your tune to certain mods. Thats not a tuner. Do you see GIAC or UNICHIP limiting there software to certain mods, no.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Dog
I love how some people just don't get the point. What people do with their own cars is their business. The point is that a business that provides parts and services has to adhere to these laws and advise customers accordingly. There are too many instances where people purchase cars and then can not register them for street use. This results in a huge financial disaster for these individuals especially if they're young with limited resources. Get it now Tuls? BTW,have you ever considered spell check? How about reading a book or something.
Come on Big Dog (AKA: JOHN, OWNER OF LUCKY DOG GARAGE),

Why would you say that to Tuls???

Lets put things into perspective. I am currently in Asia traveling around visiting manufacturers with the president of the company I currently (for the last 12 years) work for. Before this gig, My boss was the head of Rolls Royce North America, Nakamichi Electronics and B&O Electronics. He knows full well that I spell like sh*& but he pays me a fat six figure income. Why?? Because I'm very good at my job and my spelling deficiencies mean nothing.

Your comment means nothing other then a poor attempt at making yourself sound more authoritative then Tuls. "He" has been there and done that!!

I see you are now talking allot about the M62. Let me guess. You convinced Spider to come to your shop so you could see and barrow the engineering design from DDM to make your own M62???

Come on John. Lets get down to your real problem. What could possibly be making you so mad that you keep coming into RMW threads??

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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 06:40 AM
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He's just got a big (well lets be honest... probably little) hard on for Jan's work.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 06:44 AM
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I am currently in Asia traveling around visiting manufacturers with the president of the company I currently (for the last 12 years) work for. Before this gig, My boss was the head of Rolls Royce North America, Nakamichi Electronics and B&O Electronics. He knows full well that I spell like sh*& but he pays me a fat six figure income. Why?? Because I'm very good at my job and my spelling deficiencies mean nothing.
are you guys hiring???

ill carry your luggage from place to place
 
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 1FSTMINI
So what people do to their cars is not YOUR business, why are YOU always up in someones??? And i never seen anyone not able to register a car because of performance mods.

And I also think your alittle bitter because no one wants to deal with you from this site with that attitude of yours and the fact you limit your tune to certain mods. Thats not a tuner. Do you see GIAC or UNICHIP limiting there software to certain mods, no.

Im not a violent person and this is the internet , but if i was in your shop and you spoke me the way you just did to TULS, you'd be eating your teeth.

And speaking of the comment you made to him. Read the site guidlines if you plan on staying here.
So it's OK for Tuls to make a disparaging post to Big Dog, but not Big Dog back to Tuls?

Forget about the spelling mistakes, which weren't the usual typos we all make, but actual English misuse.

Tuls was incorrect and Big Dog was correct. So Big Dog earns your wrath. No wonder Big Dog has just about given up on the mindless MINI set.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Dog
I love how some people just don't get the point. What people do with their own cars is their business. The point is that a business that provides parts and services has to adhere to these laws and advise customers accordingly. There are too many instances where people purchase cars and then can not register them for street use. This results in a huge financial disaster for these individuals especially if they're young with limited resources. Get it now Tuls? BTW,have you ever considered spell check? How about reading a book or something.
Wow... once again you prove that you are nothing more than an internet bully... LOL.. who cant keep up with the big boys, so he pics on others.

What part of what I wrote was a spelled wrong exactly anyway? Does it really matter... or is that just some way for you to actually feel like you have a reason to live. Do you feel better? BIGGER? Now yer a big dog for pickin on a dyslexic? Sorry writing isn't one of my talents... I have many others.

It's not your concern whether or not someone can register a car in another state A... and 2 why should someone car about then when they are modding their car...

Oh and Bitter Dog, just cause you read a book on how to be something doesn't mean you know how. So, you can read all the books you want. Some of us not only read books but have practical experience.

Edit: I'll tell you what, if you took what I said personally, that's too bad for you John. I have been listening to this kinda stuff for MUCH longer than you. It's old, it's been years, and while some were saying the samethings over and over people like myself, and Jan... and many others were out there doing what was said couldn't be done.

While yer point about sellign the car was true, and I never said it wasn't. It was off topic. We were talking about making cars faster. Not selling, them and what the buyer may go through.
 

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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 06:53 AM
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this isn't going to go any where productive from here on out... i'll tell you that much. But why start taking cheap shots at people for things other then car tuning. Last i checked we were talking about making cars faster... not the evolution of linguistics are it pertains to the internet.

^^ on the subject of linguistics... many a college professor will tell you that, if it is legible and a message is conveyed with it... it counts as engrish. IE the modern language isn't a set of rules to adhere too... but rather an ever changing liquid form of communication. edumacate that.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by minimusprime
the funny thing is I agree with a lot of things that you say, with regards to car tuning theory... you're just so condescending I can't possibly agree with you.
Umm, may I respectfully disagree with a bit of what you way?

I think that in this case that Big Dog's original post was simply informative and factual.

The condescending and disparaging tone originated with the reply to it from Tuls.

Then, Big Dog responded in kind. IMO, he was right in his facts, but probably not right in letting Tuls bait him.

Just my 2 cents.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by hornguys
Umm, may I respectfully disagree with a bit of what you way?

I think that in this case that Big Dog's original post was simply informative and factual.

The condescending and disparaging tone originated with the reply to it from Tuls.

Then, Big Dog responded in kind. IMO, he was right in his facts, but probably not right in letting Tuls bait him.

Just my 2 cents.
I've got nothing but respect for you Jim. Disagreeing is a healthy situation. As long as it pertains to cars... and not the english language. LoL if I wanted to talk about that, I'd go back to college.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by hornguys
So it's OK for Tuls to make a disparaging post to Big Dog, but not Big Dog back to Tuls?

Forget about the spelling mistakes, which weren't the usual typos we all make, but actual English misuse.

Tuls was incorrect and Big Dog was correct. So Big Dog earns your wrath. No wonder Big Dog has just about given up on the mindless MINI set.
My post wasn't disparaging, it was pointing out that every vendor that hasn't been able to "do it" always throws in the "well, we dont do that cause of states like cali." etc etc blah blah... I am tired of excuses... they are nothing more than lies wrapped in reason.

Half the time I spell phonetically (which shouldn't that be fonetiklee) or use other words to be funny... but OMG you people have got to be kidding me. Get off yer grammar soap boxes... I don't walk around talking about yer in ability to understand digital animation algorithms and f-curves. Get over yer self. Yes YEEEER self.... LOL

I was not incorrect... Two states are no reason for what John posted and was irrelevant to the conversation. We were talking about efficiency not where we can register such a car.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 07:09 AM
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Big "Emo" Dog needs to go to a corner and cut himself instead of taking out on people who know exactly what they are doing and that is making the MINI FREAKING FAST and don't need to be told what to do or how to do things
 
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 07:11 AM
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Tuls...ef grammer and speeling ar all thay hav to complane aboot, weer doin okey. Meens teh rust is gud!
 
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 07:18 AM
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Tuls...ef grammer and speeling ar all thay hav to complane aboot, weer doin okey. Meens teh rust is gud!
LOL.... NOICE!



 
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 07:22 AM
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LOL hey here's a book I should buy! Can I have yer autograph!

 
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 07:24 AM
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So where were we... oh yes... the 19% Vs the M62 vs Turbo... we left off with the intelligent part of the thread with this last post.

Originally Posted by Wake|MCS
IMHO the M62 is not worth the time or effort. For a high revving high power application go Turbo. Even with the M62 you're limited to the power, you'll NEVER see the same power or efficient use of boost as with a ball bearing turbo. Say whatever you want to try and prove otherwise but you just won't.

Would you say the 19% pulley actually reaches this point that it truly does not make any more power than a 15% even with a head?
I dont think the M62 ever got it's full testing or rather "proper testing"... I think it would be a great mod if had the right testing. I never liked the 19% cuase the SC runs out at a low RPM and I like reving out little motors... they sing up above 4500...

yes hands down turbos are great. but like the Twincharge I find that the M62 can be more of a "bolt on" for some... which brings us to... DUN DUN DUUUUUUUH

the rotrex.... could this be the best of both worlds? Will the unpossible ever be possible? Will I ever learn to "spell" while using NAM?

Stay tuned! Same MINI place, Same MINI channel
 

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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 07:25 AM
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LOL hey here's a book I should buy! Can I have yer autograph!

How do you find this stuff so fast?

Have fun today. I'm off to bed. It's 11:30 pm here in China.

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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 07:26 AM
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So where were we... oh yes... the 19% Vs the M62 vs Turbo... we left off with the intelligent part of the thread with this last post.
Don't forget my Rotrex.

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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by hornguys
So it's OK for Tuls to make a disparaging post to Big Dog, but not Big Dog back to Tuls?

Forget about the spelling mistakes, which weren't the usual typos we all make, but actual English misuse.

Tuls was incorrect and Big Dog was correct. So Big Dog earns your wrath. No wonder Big Dog has just about given up on the mindless MINI set.
I wasnt about to go back and read everything he said she said to each other. they're both adults and need to grow up if thats the case and take it off the site. And no one is correct in this arguement.

Originally Posted by hornguys
Umm, may I respectfully disagree with a bit of what you way?

I think that in this case that Big Dog's original post was simply informative and factual.

The condescending and disparaging tone originated with the reply to it from Tuls.

Then, Big Dog responded in kind. IMO, he was right in his facts, but probably not right in letting Tuls bait him.

Just my 2 cents.
you must be a friend of bigdog with these comments.

i know neither of them and would of said the samething to tuls if he commented the way bigdog just did.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 07:39 AM
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LOL hey here's a book I should buy! Can I have yer autograph!

Big Dog hard at work on NAM (instead or working hard making customers happy IRL):

 
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