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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 11:52 AM
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ECU and Piggyback for R56

Anybody got any updates for us? I know there are a few copanies working on it but no has anything available yet. I am sure there is more power to be had. I keep reading posts about testing.

PLEASE GIVE US AN UPDATE!
 
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 12:30 PM
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i think that the 08 JCW will have a different ECU, but i've also herd a few things through the grape vine about a few other companies...ill keep looking for info for you if you'd like.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mikeg4572
Anybody got any updates for us? I know there are a few copanies working on it but no has anything available yet. I am sure there is more power to be had. I keep reading posts about testing.
PLEASE GIVE US AN UPDATE!
Geez, your such an upgrade whiner Mike
 
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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I know. It's just no fun with the R56 like it was with the R53. There were SOOOOOOOOO many mods.

p.s. Dan, I think you are worried that I will have one of the quickest MINI's in the club....lol
 
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 03:38 PM
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We should be ready to beta test our ecu starting next week, assuming our next tuning session goes as planned. We are in the final tuning phases to get some more power and better drivability. I will post some more updates soon.

Might not be exactly the kind of update you were looking for, but its all thats available right now.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 09:51 AM
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It works for me At least you guys are paying attention. Thanks for the update!
 
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 01:05 PM
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Hey Mike,

What am I chopped liver? I'm working on something(s) as well. But can't be coy with teaser stuff until we have a horse picked and trained if you know what I mean!

Thanks for the thread though!

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I just hope this thread does not get too long. Are you guys running into issues or does a good tune really take a while? I know I am super impatient and I would not want a product that was not tested. But I am antsey!
 
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 01:42 PM
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It isn't just the "tune" it is the software and interface to talk to motor, the body module and the factory ECU. So if we all RUSH to get this done, the end user suffers with reduced drivability, performance, mileage etc. Pateince is most definately a virtue here!

Thanks again!

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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mikeg4572
I know. It's just no fun with the R56 like it was with the R53. There were SOOOOOOOOO many mods.
p.s. Dan, I think you are worried that I will have one of the quickest MINI's in the club....lol
"Will have"??? All i saw going up Wolf Creek Pass was the back of your car... hehe... I'd say your already WELL on your way...
 
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 04:51 PM
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All I can say is, I'm really curious to see the power output of on my car with Alta intake, exhaust, intercooler when combined with their ECU tune
 
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 05:40 AM
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We have tuned our UNIchip to work with our intake and exhaust already. Just waiting on UNIchip to get the plug and play harness ready so there is no cutting and splicing needed like we had to do on our car.

There are some great gains with the UNIchip, especially when you put the whole system together with intake, exhaust and tuning, it really has turned our little mule into quite the beast.

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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ALTAPerformance
It isn't just the "tune" it is the software and interface to talk to motor, the body module and the factory ECU. So if we all RUSH to get this done, the end user suffers with reduced drivability, performance, mileage etc. Pateince is most definately a virtue here!

Thanks again!

Adam

BETA TESTER HERE!!!!!!!! PICK ME PICK ME
 
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 11:29 AM
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you bet!~)

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BETA TESTER HERE!!!!!!!! PICK ME PICK ME
HAHAHA I know you are chomping at the bit! More info soon. Sorry for the perpetual delays, we don't want to say we have something that we don't have. And we want actual dyno results to back it up, not just "WE made a TON of power!) But the in house Dyna-Pack will certainly help solve that ASAP!

Thanks again!
 
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 05:35 AM
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Helix is just about done. They are beating the mule and haven't been able to make her break. They put in 89 octane and she got faster with no Knock. All that is left is some fine tuning on the dyno and packaging. If you are local to Helix give them a ring and ask about beta testing the box at a reduced price. Also there is a big tubo kit in the works.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Tony bag of donuts
Helix is just about done. They are beating the mule and haven't been able to make her break. They put in 89 octane and she got faster with no Knock. All that is left is some fine tuning on the dyno and packaging. If you are local to Helix give them a ring and ask about beta testing the box at a reduced price. Also there is a big tubo kit in the works.
I hate to poke, but something doesn't make sense. Do you mean that the map they developed with 89 octane is faster than stock mapping on 89 or what? It isn't possible to have more power with less energy (89 vs. 92 oct.) Knock is a function of fuel and timing. So with less fuel energy, then less timing (as well as boost) is required to prevent knock. Thus less power.

Can you clarify what you mean? A bunch of us are now curious. (Do you have this on your car?)

adam@altaminiperformance.com
 
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 09:22 AM
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I hate to poke, but something doesn't make sense. Do you mean that the map they developed with 89 octane is faster than stock mapping on 89 or what? It isn't possible to have more power with less energy (89 vs. 92 oct.) Knock is a function of fuel and timing. So with less fuel energy, then less timing (as well as boost) is required to prevent knock. Thus less power.

Can you clarify what you mean? A bunch of us are now curious. (Do you have this on your car?)

adam@altaminiperformance.com
Octane does not dictate the engery level in a fuel if they have the same amount of hydrocarbons. Octane only dictaes the auto ignition properites of the combusions of that fuel.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 09:49 AM
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What I meant was the higher octane rating allows for more aggressive timing, boost thus more power. Sorry for the confusion I created now.

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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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Do you mean that the map they developed with 89 octane is faster than stock mapping on 89 or what?
I think that's it...

How much is the helix box? Does it come with custom map for exhaust-intake?
 
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Prices and options will be released shortly: we're still logging miles on it.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 01:32 PM
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 11:13 AM
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So does anyine have any updates for us regarding the ECU chips? I don't know if this will be answered but with 91 octane are there any knocking issues with the ECU tune? I am certainly in the market for more power but will there be any reliability issues in the future with a more aggressive tune?
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by mikeg4572
I know. It's just no fun with the R56 like it was with the R53. There were SOOOOOOOOO many mods.
were there many mods for the r53 in 2002?

I bet a year from now there will be many many mods including ECU stuff
 
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 01:45 PM
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Wait a second!!!

Originally Posted by MotorMouth
were there many mods for the r53 in 2002?

I bet a year from now there will be many many mods including ECU stuff
There are TONS of mods for the R56 now (ECU's included, but pending release from most tuner types) but I feel that there are MORE mods for the R56 in 2007, than there were for the R53 in 2002. I know looking at my catalog, we have FAR more now than we did back then.

Again, my two cents. Also, agreed you can never have too many mods right?

Adam@altaminiperformance.com
 
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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We will offer both:

Originally Posted by CaMiniMe
So does anyine have any updates for us regarding the ECU chips? I don't know if this will be answered but with 91 octane are there any knocking issues with the ECU tune? I am certainly in the market for more power but will there be any reliability issues in the future with a more aggressive tune?
thanks
ALTA Mapping on our ECU tunes will be available in lower octane versions as well as higher (93+). This will be for both the R53 and R56 variants. Versions of our system being released in November to the general public, will allow in car switching of maps, and in spring of 2008 the same kits will allow individuals using a wideband O2 to do there own personalized tuning (within reasons, but best for dramatic changes in fuel, options, altitude.)

Stay tuned!

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