I thought I should start a new thread as to not confuse things in the project thread.

Here is the latest on our black turbo mini, we made 513whp last friday!! A little shot of nitrous and a little more boost got us up from 478whp last time around, we are still working out a couple small items that will allow us to put the rest of the power to the ground!

Here is a link to a video.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...644&pr=goog-sl

And here is the dyno chart from Friday.



Due to a couple issues you can see the chart is a little rough and the torque isn't as high as it was last time out. we should have gotten more power and quite a bit more torque than the chart shows.

 

OMG that thing PULLS!!! I wish I could turbo my MINI!

-Cody

 

THAT IS AMAZING!!!

**Baby voice** "I want I want"

 

Fun Video; thanks for sharing! Good video editing too, I must add!

 

thanks! If you look at the boost controller you can see its only set to 23psi!

 

What does it generally cost to get something like that done? I'm assuming quite a bit, no?

-Cody

 

Like the old saying goes:"If you have to ask......."

I know roughly where Brian sat before the new clutch, nitrous and custom fuel rail......it was more than most coopers cost.........
For a real reference all said and done, I was roughly around $13k in parts. I did not have any labor costs associated with that. That includes a Fireballed Stage 1 head, clutch work, flywheel, gauges, all the little stuff, as well as the turbo conversion itself. Basically every kit is a one-off and totally built to your specific needs. This IMHO is the prime reason to work with Hubie and Brian. They buld the car how you want it done. This ain't bolt on, this ain't all show, no go....this is true firebreathing, eat Porsches and BMW 335s all day long power. Should have seen the 335 owners face when he tried to tailgate and then pull on me yesterday...needless to say he has new respect for the jet black Arizona turbo MINI

 

Wow!! Between what Fireballed! and Jan is doing...there are some GREAT things being done in the MINI tuning world. Good to see!! Keep up the great work guys!

 

Great work and looks amazing. I still would have loved to keep the SC whine, just my preference. However, and maybe i'm getting a little old and do exucse me for saying this but that music sure was annoying.

 

HA HA I hear ya on the sc whine, but when I want to hear that I drive the GP! The music is a little violent.

 

Don't leave out the M62.

 

just saw the vid - my neck hurts - you should really put a warning oor disclaimer -

 

Nice!

 

Yes this is a good thing to see, but it will be very nice when the masses will be able to afford this stuff, as in the asian market cars. It seems that their parts are way more affordable, no?

 

It's the law of diminshing returns that holds true in all hobbies. To be on the bleeding edge of performance and engineering you are going to pay exponentially more for fewer and fewer hp gains. Still the best bang for the buck, for the vast majority of owners, is simply a pulley and a good driving school. For those who want more it is great to see how far tuners are beginning to push our little 1.6.

I really don't see these products ever reaching the great masses. The sacrifices in daily comfort and dollars is just too steep. Sure I drive my car as a daily, but even doing that; it is noisy, rides harsher and requires significant finesse to launch and maintain properly. The old adage holds true:"Good, cheap, fast...choose two, 'casue you can't have all three" I know there are folks hoping for the magical $2k turbo conversion. It just will never happen, or happen so the car is driveable and reliabale. The turbo for these kits alone is over $1k. Throw in the needed pistons at $600+ and you are already more than the vast majority of folks are willing to spend, without the labor to install any of this. Even if you can get a kit that is fully installable by customers similar to the VW kits from say Kinetic Motorsports, the cheapest I could ever see the parts being is in the $5k range.

 

I hate to quote my self, but I guess I meant me .

 

My questions are..

1. drive-ability, I assume this is not a car you would want to take to work daily?

2. Longevity? tuning a 1.6 to over 500 HP I'm sure puts you in the 2-3000 mile range before a rebuild?

3 drive-train mods?

 

I drive this car just about every day, I could drive it every day if I didn't have other car that I drive when I have to do different places or do different things. I drive the car as much as I do because its sooooo much fun to drive.

The trans is a stock 05 with a quaife, the engine has a set of pistons in it and everything else inside is oem The head is our stage II

I am sure if you ran it out to 8K under boost ( 30psi ) and hit the button every time you drove the car through every gear it would be short lived but I have been driving this car with this setup for the most part with no problems since January. We have done a crazy # of dyno pulls and I drive the crap out of the car every time I drive it.

In all honesty the way its setup if you kept the boost in the 300whp range I would bet the engine would last as long as if it were a modded supercharged car driven in the same manner, only difference is how much faster and more fun it is

 

I will help answer these.....

1. Why not? its only 500 hp when u are running wot and shooting nitrous. Easy to run 400 everyday without. I run mine at around 300 with little to no issues, but then again I do it all myself, so no issues to me is not the same thing as to someone who has no clue as to what is going on with their car.
2. Longevity is relative to how the car is maintained and driven. Just because it is capable of making 500hp doesnt mean that it is driven at wot all the time. As for rebuilds, it really would depend again on how its driven. as a daily driver it would last almost as long as a stock car if not longer due to some of the hardware that is used.
3. As with anything, everything works together. You dont goto the gym and only work one area of your body and expect to be able to enter a bodybuilding contest. We are talking about a 500whp MINI. As ASMCS mentioned the people in this bracket of tuning have more money wrapped up in their car then they paid for their car. I know I do, but I love building something that the norm has not done. Thre are no bolt on kit for this. This is the realm of custom that you cant put a price tag on. You build it, it breaks, you build up what broke & you move on all the while learning more and more about something that you are pationate about!

 

well said ! trickle x

 

This post should be the lead off post to ANY thread about high performance tuning of the MINI. It cannot be summed up any better than this.

 

Your rocking man!
Thanks for the info. I hope to see your ride sometime.

 

Well I had a 66 Chevy II years ago that had a blueprinted LT1 in it that would do a tad under 800HP this was a 5.7 liter and it was a dog to run daily. 5-8MPG on SUNOCO 260, ate spark plugs for breakfast and the spooled Ford 9 inch would make you recite Hail Mary's whenever you wanted to make a turn

That is the basis of my curiosity

 

Very cool stuff. Too bad that music was overwhelming the engine sound!

Question: What parts are you seeing fail under the new power? Gearbox, mounts, output shafts, etc... Curious to see how robust parts are.

Cheers,

Greg

 

Fail...what does that mean HA HA J/K The only thing we have really seen "fail" are the stock pistons other than that we have "broken" stuff but it wasnt the fault of the part.

The sound of the video wasnt all that great anyway, lots of wind and I had the radio playing