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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 04:44 PM
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question about the ags v2

is it better to have a plastic ags or a metal one? also what are the pro's of having this mod rather than the oem. does it just put more air into the engine?
 
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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is it better to have a plastic ags or a metal one? also what are the pro's of having this mod rather than the oem. does it just put more air into the engine?
If I had a choice, I would go with the plastic one. The area where the AGS lives is surrounded by heat generating parts.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 05:47 PM
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would i need a heatsheild for it? if it is plastic
 
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 05:48 PM
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and what are the differences from the m7 v1 throguh v3
 
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 06:12 PM
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would i need a heatsheild for it? if it is plastic
No, I believe it is a plastic composite, which will withstand the amount of heat generated in that area.

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and what are the differences from the m7 v1 throguh v3
I'm not exactly sure with V.1 and V.2, and obviously V.3 is metal.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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Partsman......Whats the trick with sealing the v.2. heard alot of people are having trouble with leaks.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 05:05 PM
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Partsman......Whats the trick with sealing the v.2. heard alot of people are having trouble with leaks.
A decent amount of RTV and let it sit overnight.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 05:24 PM
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thanx.....i happened to get one with the CF cover so when i get a chance im goin to install it.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 05:43 PM
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thanx.....i happened to get one with the CF cover so when i get a chance im goin to install it.
Cool, good luck with it. I think i'm going to try out the MCSa tube when I do the electric water pump, so I can keep my airbox setup.
 

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i was following that discussion on the AT tube for awhile until the AGS came out then it died. which do you think performs better.

I also wanted to do the electric pump. can you put me on the trail for the parts needed and the gains. sorry for goin off topic
 
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 1FSTMINI
i was following that discussion on the AT tube for awhile until the AGS came out then it died. which do you think performs better.

I also wanted to do the electric pump. can you put me on the trail for the parts needed and the gains. sorry for goin off topic
As far as performance, I would have to say that the shorter AGS tube would be better. The only thing I don't like about it is that it's not a sealed system, unless you're moving, your sucking some seriously warm under hood air.
I know Tuls found no gain from when he compared the MCSa tube to the 6-speed tube, but to me it seems the air would flow better through the nice consistent diameter of the MCSa tube. Like I posted above, I want to keep my airbox/filter/induction hose setup because I plan to ram air into it from somewhere, either on top of the hood or from the front.

I contacted Dave from DDM about the electric water pump conversion, he's a really nice guy and didn't mind me picking his brain in PMs and on the phone.
He gave me some very valuable info as far as flow direction, what needs to be plumbed together, and what I have to make. He said he may offer a kit for it, but i'm not sure where that is on his list.
 

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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 06:23 PM
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So your waiting on DDM to make a kit or your piecing one together?
 
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 06:40 PM
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So your waiting on DDM to make a kit or your piecing one together?
I'm doing it myself. The kit will be nice for those who don't have the means to make the stuff needed to do the conversion. I have a good friend that owns a metal/machine shop where I do all the work on my car, betweeen the two of us we'll be able to make all the stuff to do it, except the pump of course.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 06:46 PM
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o ok....so let me know when ur done so i can take a ride up to CT for you to do mine also....lol
 
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 07:03 PM
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I could always make 2 or 3 of everything...
 
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 07:04 PM
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At what price would everything be you think roughly? And the gains?
 
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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At what price would everything be you think roughly? And the gains?
Once I get into it and see what needs to be done and what we use, i'll have a better idea.
The gains...less drag on the SC is the main one, definitely free up some power there. You also won't have to worry about the water pump drive lube going away.
 
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ok...can you PM me when you have an idea on the cost
 
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 07:58 PM
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ok...can you PM me when you have an idea on the cost
I sure will.
 
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