My Perfect Wax? Help Me Find It?
Originally Posted by greg67
Sheepskin mitts are nice for washing too. They are readily available.
For drying, I love my Little Blue Drying Towel (is that the waffle weave you're talking about?). I got it from CMA (www.properautocare.com), which is local for me.
For drying, I love my Little Blue Drying Towel (is that the waffle weave you're talking about?). I got it from CMA (www.properautocare.com), which is local for me.
Yes, the Big and Little Blue's are among the best!
My car not only lives outside, but on a ranch, meaning currently no roof, and dirt road and parking....detailing is tough..
I use Zaino--the whole kit, and wow, its easy to do...BUT...I have a dark gray car and when I got it, it was cared for with Zymol...I LOVED the color--dark and deep.
The "reflective" nature of Zaino has NOT made me happy with the color of my car....its very noticeable...much lighter and while I can shine it up, the color is "blah"...on just about any other color, I would think the Zaino shine would be great, but now I have a dark silver car instead of dark gray metallic...
I am considering trying Zymol, (the cheap type) to see if I can recover the lovely deep color in my car....is there some kind of tape or something I can protect the black trim with? I am a total KLUTZ when it comes to painting projects, etc...I'm afraid I'll make a huge MESS!
I use Zaino--the whole kit, and wow, its easy to do...BUT...I have a dark gray car and when I got it, it was cared for with Zymol...I LOVED the color--dark and deep.
The "reflective" nature of Zaino has NOT made me happy with the color of my car....its very noticeable...much lighter and while I can shine it up, the color is "blah"...on just about any other color, I would think the Zaino shine would be great, but now I have a dark silver car instead of dark gray metallic...
I am considering trying Zymol, (the cheap type) to see if I can recover the lovely deep color in my car....is there some kind of tape or something I can protect the black trim with? I am a total KLUTZ when it comes to painting projects, etc...I'm afraid I'll make a huge MESS!
I like my Zaino "straight" but playing with carnauba toppers on top of a durable polymer base is a lot of fun. I have used Klasse as a base on several cars and have at least 15 carnaubas in my arsenal that I have tried at one time or another. Have fun! :smile:
PS: One of my favorites for dark cars is Pinnacle Souveran but "cheap" aint the word!
HINT: You know what makes a good masking tool? An extra large flexible Bondo spreader or painters edger from the paint department. (they come in shapes and sizes) I move it along as I wipe wax with my foam applicator. Keep the masking tool lying on the trim and just keep wiping right up to it. It's super fast and there is no tape prepping or clean up. Hey, I have a lot of cars. I learn!
PS: One of my favorites for dark cars is Pinnacle Souveran but "cheap" aint the word!
HINT: You know what makes a good masking tool? An extra large flexible Bondo spreader or painters edger from the paint department. (they come in shapes and sizes) I move it along as I wipe wax with my foam applicator. Keep the masking tool lying on the trim and just keep wiping right up to it. It's super fast and there is no tape prepping or clean up. Hey, I have a lot of cars. I learn!
Z6
Brad I never did get the Z6. I have the Meguiars quick detailer that I had been using. Is the Z6 a better product?
I was at my brothers when I did the clay and wax job. He and my nephew were so impressed with the results they got online and bought the Zaino and have done 3 of their cars already.
I was at my brothers when I did the clay and wax job. He and my nephew were so impressed with the results they got online and bought the Zaino and have done 3 of their cars already.
Z6 really is infinitely better. Better slickness and lubricity. Smears less and hazes less. Better shine that lasts longer as well.
When you feel like it, treat yourself to some Z6 for detailing and then relegate the Meguiars for the dirty jobs or claying and stuff like that. That's what I did.
When you feel like it, treat yourself to some Z6 for detailing and then relegate the Meguiars for the dirty jobs or claying and stuff like that. That's what I did.
Although I'm not Brad, I have followed his advice religiously and the z6 you've got to have. I got the entire Zaino kit and followed instructions and the results were outstanding. When I drove the car, I couldn't believe how quickly little bits of "stuff" were on my silky surface again. But the topper is being able to come home and spritz on the z6 in about 10 minutes and the mini feels like glass again. I have a feeling I will go through this more than any other product. I am thinking it will really help me out during the winter months when I can't really care for my mini like I can now. Had to put my two cents in.
Kirk
Kirk
Brad, A friend of mine with a Corvette likes my Zaino shine. He wants to use it on his car but was asking if the process is the same for fiberglass. Do you treat it the same? Claybar, z2, z6 etc?
Simplify your life. Get Klasse AIO and Klasse Sealant Glaze from www.properautocare.com
I've used almost every popular wax/polish out there including zaino when it was first popular (and later when the fx or whatever the quick dry stuff is called came out), and I've settled on the Klasse.
I've used almost every popular wax/polish out there including zaino when it was first popular (and later when the fx or whatever the quick dry stuff is called came out), and I've settled on the Klasse.
I'm not Brad ..but I play Brad on TV (Couldn't resist that one)
Seriously..one tip I've picked up to keep wax etc off of rubber/plastic trim such as the wheel arches etc..is to apply your plastic/rubber dressing first and leave it wet while you apply the wax/sealant. Any that gets onto the trim just wipes off. The painters edging tool is a great tip as well...but hard to use on curves. Another tip I've gleaned is to use foam paint applicators to apply trim dressing. They have a chisel tip and it's easy to keep dressing off the paint. Having said all that, the nature of Zaino is such that any that gets onto the trim is easily cleaned off...not like wax products.
Detailing is fun and acquiring detailing supplies and knowledge is the best scavenger hunt ever !!
Peter...new adherent to Autopia...in Denver
Detailing is fun and acquiring detailing supplies and knowledge is the best scavenger hunt ever !!
Peter...new adherent to Autopia...in Denver
Zaino Review
After reading this (and other) thread, I finally decided to try Zaino over Klasse. Take your pick of my short and long reviews.....
Short Version:
I couldn't be happier with Zaino!
I've already recommended it to half a dozen people.
Long Version:
Ordering
Zaino's distribution is fantastic. Maybe this doesn't make an impression on most people; but (being in the distribution business) I notice. I ordered ZFX, Z2,Z5,& Z6 online on a Wednesday afternoon. The package was on my door Thursday evening. Fantastic!
Instructions
The instructions that are included in the shipment were suffiecient; but a couple more pages would have been nice. There are some really great tips listed on the website that would make a nice addition to the standard packing material.
Application
I think I made the classic Zaino-Rookie mistake and applied the first layer too thick. Zaino does seem to take longer to dry than other products I have used; and my first application took about 90 minutes to dry. However, this was on a *very humid* St. Louis evening. I applied the second layer much thinner (although maybe not thin enough) and it took about 45 minutes to fully dry.
Removal
Once dry, Zaino is by far the easiest to remove of any product that I have used. Buff off and then shine with Z6. I did deviate from the directions on this step. They seem *really* insistant that the best method of removal is to use a 100% cotton bath towel. I used microfiber instead and didn't have any problem.
Results
It was hard to judge the shine by the florecent lights of my garage; but the next day I was amazed. I had two people actually stop by my office to tell me how great my car looked!
The shine is incredible. The feel is also amazing. I don't hear a lot of people mention the almost silky smoothness that Zaino leaves; but it is almost unreal.
Maintenance
Perhaps it is because of the incredible smoothness of the finish or the superior qualities of Z6; but I have been most happy with how Zaino has changed my car cleaning routine. A quick car dust and then Z6 quick detail each evening has kept my MINI looking *incredibly* good. For the last 6 months I have washed at least once a week. However, this weekend I'm going to wash my MINI for the first time in about 2.5 weeks; and that is not because it appears to need it but so that I can prep for another layer of Z2.
Short Version:
I couldn't be happier with Zaino!
I've already recommended it to half a dozen people. Long Version:
Ordering
Zaino's distribution is fantastic. Maybe this doesn't make an impression on most people; but (being in the distribution business) I notice. I ordered ZFX, Z2,Z5,& Z6 online on a Wednesday afternoon. The package was on my door Thursday evening. Fantastic!
Instructions
The instructions that are included in the shipment were suffiecient; but a couple more pages would have been nice. There are some really great tips listed on the website that would make a nice addition to the standard packing material.
Application
I think I made the classic Zaino-Rookie mistake and applied the first layer too thick. Zaino does seem to take longer to dry than other products I have used; and my first application took about 90 minutes to dry. However, this was on a *very humid* St. Louis evening. I applied the second layer much thinner (although maybe not thin enough) and it took about 45 minutes to fully dry.
Removal
Once dry, Zaino is by far the easiest to remove of any product that I have used. Buff off and then shine with Z6. I did deviate from the directions on this step. They seem *really* insistant that the best method of removal is to use a 100% cotton bath towel. I used microfiber instead and didn't have any problem.
Results
It was hard to judge the shine by the florecent lights of my garage; but the next day I was amazed. I had two people actually stop by my office to tell me how great my car looked!
The shine is incredible. The feel is also amazing. I don't hear a lot of people mention the almost silky smoothness that Zaino leaves; but it is almost unreal. Maintenance
Perhaps it is because of the incredible smoothness of the finish or the superior qualities of Z6; but I have been most happy with how Zaino has changed my car cleaning routine. A quick car dust and then Z6 quick detail each evening has kept my MINI looking *incredibly* good. For the last 6 months I have washed at least once a week. However, this weekend I'm going to wash my MINI for the first time in about 2.5 weeks; and that is not because it appears to need it but so that I can prep for another layer of Z2.
Dream wax
Another vote for Klasse - but try a combo of Klasse all-in-one, let it cure for about 8 hours (or overnight) and then finish with a top coat of Pinnacle carnauba wax. This is a fantastic method - it is fast (assuming you start with a clean surface) and yet the finish is absolutely beautiful. I've used Zaino as well, and while it is a very good product, I find it more labor intensive (particularly trying to remember the damned sequence - Z6? Z5? accelerator?).
Originally Posted by flyingsluzer
Zaino does seem to take longer to dry than other products I have used; and my first application took about 90 minutes to dry. However, this was on a *very humid* St. Louis evening. I applied the second layer much thinner (although maybe not thin enough) and it took about 45 minutes to fully dry.
I learned the technique of applying wax to the paint surface with my fingers years ago from a friend of mine, it works great.
Using your fingers gives excellent feel for the surface and allows pin point control of the wax application. It also allows you to apply wax with that 1/4" zone to avoid rubber and trim on the car -- just smooth around the trim/rubber with one finger, goes on in a snap!
Try your fingers instead of an applicator, I guarantee you'll like it!
Using your fingers gives excellent feel for the surface and allows pin point control of the wax application. It also allows you to apply wax with that 1/4" zone to avoid rubber and trim on the car -- just smooth around the trim/rubber with one finger, goes on in a snap!
Try your fingers instead of an applicator, I guarantee you'll like it!
Zaino dry time:
On my wife's car, I've taken to washing it on a Saturday afternoon and applying a coat of Z2. I'll let this sit overnight and simply buff it off the next day. It is apparently better to let coats of Zaino cure well before applying the next coat anyway.
Regarding Z6 - It's the best! I got a half a bottle of Meguiars QD from a friend of mine who used my driveway to wash and clay his car. The Z6 streaks A LOT less and takes less work to remove fingerprints. The Z6 is also excellent on Zaino'd glass... I've stopped using glass cleaner on the exterior of our cars... just a half of a spritz of Z6 per window and microfiber away.
I still wash every weekend if I can, but if the weather hasn't been too bad, I'll just hit the cars with the duster and Z6 w/ a microfiber to bring it all back to showroom new (or better).
On my wife's car, I've taken to washing it on a Saturday afternoon and applying a coat of Z2. I'll let this sit overnight and simply buff it off the next day. It is apparently better to let coats of Zaino cure well before applying the next coat anyway.
Regarding Z6 - It's the best! I got a half a bottle of Meguiars QD from a friend of mine who used my driveway to wash and clay his car. The Z6 streaks A LOT less and takes less work to remove fingerprints. The Z6 is also excellent on Zaino'd glass... I've stopped using glass cleaner on the exterior of our cars... just a half of a spritz of Z6 per window and microfiber away.
I still wash every weekend if I can, but if the weather hasn't been too bad, I'll just hit the cars with the duster and Z6 w/ a microfiber to bring it all back to showroom new (or better).
Originally Posted by agranger
It is apparently better to let coats of Zaino cure well before applying the next coat anyway.
Now, without any ZFX, this wax would be "dry" but not "cured". Without ZFX you should wait at least 6 hours for it to cure. With ZFX additive, it will be cured immediately.
Few remarks:
First, i'm picking up my mini in about a week and a half and was wondering should I clay bar it and everything when I get it or should wait until after winter since the dealer should have already waxed it once?
Second, Zaino is a polish right? So it seems that for protection you need a wax over it. if so, what's a good layerable wax?
Third, looked through the zaino site and it says when using ZFX only do three coats max, any reason why?
First, i'm picking up my mini in about a week and a half and was wondering should I clay bar it and everything when I get it or should wait until after winter since the dealer should have already waxed it once?
Second, Zaino is a polish right? So it seems that for protection you need a wax over it. if so, what's a good layerable wax?
Third, looked through the zaino site and it says when using ZFX only do three coats max, any reason why?


